Skill expression should be META - Cheatcode for Devs

Well, depending what’s the DPS meta, both roles are technically required to know Tracer.

Cass/Tracer

In a F-DPS meta, the hitscan is required to play Tracer.

Echo/Tracer

So despite her hitscan kit, she’s technically played by both. One could argue double-hitscan meta, but general rule of tumb in higher play, 1 hitscan with 1 fdps.

No thank you

requires more skill than the 3 above btw

The only problem here is that game is now f2p, and skilled players won’t buy that much stuff from the shop compared to casuals that are looking for easy-to-play heroes. Hence, blizzard wants to acknowledge this and reward pepegas more than skill. And that the game is free, you have no other option but selling stuff to those who buy the most.

Dive wasn’t oppressive for good players. Can’t believe they actually created heroes for bad players so they can get rewarded for being bad. So sad.

Since you seem to know, who or what is that?

I already know that “bad players” are anyone that plays something countering you or is “easy”

Has the OP every consider that his definition of skill is not universal, and that strategy and tactics matter in this game as much as aim?

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Tank should be Doom, Ball, Monkey, Queen and Sig. Others are braindead or too oppressive for the required skill

None of what is being said prevents new players from picking up the game, btw. It’s natural to want the characters that take the most practice to be decent at, to be the peak of the game.

The stupidly funny thing is that they are already using this cheat code and you are unaware of it

Any suggestion that Sojourn should be anywhere near the meta immediately renders the rest of your point null.

Sadly, the direction of OW2 is the opposite and the devs won’t change it easily imo. It seems the devs confuse PvP with PvE, and believe low skill expression could solve the problem of stomping games naively.

I think the issue is that a lot of players don’t know what’s considered skill or not, they assume mechanical skill is the only kind of skill when it really isn’t, Winston and rein are very good example where you gotta play smart and carefully

Shame to you all falling for a troll reviving a thread of Jul, because the threads dont get locked…

It was the owl and high ranked players who screamed the loudest about dive being oppressive.

People played rein in gold and below.

Imagine being an elitist and completely ignorant on the topic.:neutral_face::grimacing:

Lol, no way you think these are difficult characters to play. These are basically free elo, the characters play themselves. Placing a Torb turret in a good spot is harder than playing any of the characters that you mentioned.

soldier sneak is funny