They are adding new heroes for Overwatch 2. I can near guarantee at least one will be a tank.
Banning tanks won’t do you any good now.
You’d just pave over one issue and just caused an even worse one.
Tank bans would just reinforce if the top 2 are banned, you’d just move onto the next 2 and vice versa.
Which is why buffing, nerfing and reverting some characters is the way to go in the meantime. Addressing damage and healing opens up far more of the tank line up then banning ever would.
If they’d listen to you they would have already pulled the trigger.
I mean that’s true, but I think it’s more true in the context of the entire game.
The tank lineup is butchered due to DPS not wanting things to get in their way.
Support lineup routinely gets nerfed out for the same.
The same favored DPS are running rampant in most metas with half the DPS cast sidelined most of the time, too.
This isn’t what I’d call a successful game. And if I were employed at Blizz and my future paychecks depended upon OW2 being a success, I’d consider it a priority to get more or most of the heroes into a viable state so they have loyal players going into the sequel.
As I think about it some more, I kinda feel like the most commonly selected one by far would actually be status quo and that these changes would only really have a limited impact anyway… you’d be penning yourself into a mirror match but you couldn’t even attempt an off meta pick if you find the opposition is better at the mirror than you.
Out of curiosity, why? Other ranks have a pretty similar selection profile and there’s probably a handful that’d like to get themselves boxed in to a couple of off metas
Regardless, I doubt blizz would push any sort of ban type thing after the last attempt regardless of its merits. If there was a pro scene that wasn’t wholly dictated by blizz/OWL more like Dota tournaments could actually set up to test this sorta thing. Wonder if this could be programmed into workshop
Banning Rein and Zarya from comp means they aren’t select-able. So if you default to say D.Va Ball for instance. That’s another comp that’ll be mirrored on the enemy team because it’s the second best.
Can’t go with the first, go with the second right.
So you just bottle necked tanks into playing 1 or 2 instead of allowing them to select the rest.
Maybe they want to try Sig D.Va or Hog Winston together but your stupid banning system wouldn’t allow that.
Also your pitting tanks against each other and having them fight over what their dps should be killing.
How does not letting anyone below 3500 have their own mirror match do this though. They won’t change them based on rank (ie Rein 2000 hp shield below masters, 1600 above), and having this as an option for those above 3500 won’t have any impact on how they adjust characters because the option to have nothing banned is still there the way I see this is a fun little tweak that lets people not have to play the meta tanks assuming almost everyone agrees. If you remove the fourth option of no bans it could be an interesting custom rule set.
That’s not really what this game is though. It’s more about switching and adjusting your strategy depending on what’s happening in the game/map/etc not locking everything down.
Not to say that I’m opposed to the concept as an optional thing to test out. It’ll probably lead to more angst if the tanks lock in a set that doesn’t work with much of their teams main chars though… or if one of your tanks goes rogue and locks you out of your main Perhaps both tanks from both sides agreeing is required, that way it fits into a more “gentleman’s agreement” to not play the omnipresent heroes.
I think that Greyfalcon is on to something here. Not necessarily just about tankbans but overall making adjusted rules for the higher ranks. It alot of ways it feels unfair that some heroes are kept down just to cater to a minority of the players. e.g Dva is trash in lower ranks cause she wrecks in owl.
Doing changes that only affect those who will min/max the fun out of the game anyway seems like a good approach to me.
It does seem that they forgot to update the post about the change (last update Feb 2018). Needing to jump through hoops to use them, plus a blue deleting many of them, does send a message that they aren’t allowed.
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