Simplicity VS Complexity

Since Hero 30 is just around the corner, I just want everyone’s expectations out on the field before we get disappointed or excited when it eventually gets released.

Would you guys prefer

  • A simple/straight-forward character like Mercy, Junkrat, McCree, WidowMaker or Mei?

or

  • A more complex/demanding character like Genji, Wrecking Ball, Doomfist or Ashe?

P.S. Simpler does NOT equal easier. It’s merely discussing about the number of passives and requirements for certain skills to activate.

A complex and versatile hero like Mei.

(lol doomfist/ashe complex??)
probably a troll tbh

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another high game sense low aim hero plz ty

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I want a complex hero like Lúcio or Symmetra. A “multitask management” hero.

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ashe isn’t a complex hero

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Let’s not confuse depth with complexity. The goal of every game designer is to add depth without adding complexity.

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I prefer depth over complexity. (Edit: Got ninja’ed by Mozts :smile:)

Don’t confuse the terms. One good example is lucio. Lucio has a simple concept but his skillset gives him a great depth.

Doomfist is complex but without so much depth. Once you learn his combos and mechanic interactions, that’s it.

A recap:
Complexity: many abilities
Depth: many uses for the abilities
Complex but shallow: A hero who has many abilities but few uses of his abilities:
Simple but deep: Few, straightforward abilities, but with numerous uses.

That said, they can release a hero with either simple or complex skillset, I wouldn’t mind. It’s necessary to have some depth though.

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another? idk any low aim heroes that require substantially more game sense

Lucio is an aura bot…
You just have to stay alive near team mates, and you have fulfilled your duty.

A really complex hero that has an area denial ability like DM or Mei wall

i think its reasonable to expect a supporter.
main healers have healing on their main fire/LMB.
off healers have a weapon there, and healing on their abilities.
so far we have 2 main healers with low aim requirement,
and 1 main healer with some aim requirement.
i would welcome one between moira and ana. where you need
to aim your healing somewhat, but please with a little less clunky kit than ana.
like, aim your healing, but have abilities that are more about mobility or stuff.
so rather simple all in all.

simple/straight-forward character like … Mei

Um, I’m not sure what you are trying to say?

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sym is anything but complex though

That makes 0 sense …

Reinhart winston?

Maybe even mercy / brig if you want to get controversial

Mei complex hero? :))) nice joke

As much as I love Hammy and Sym they’re kits feel too involved.

I’d much rather it max out at the same level as someone like Ashe, or Hog.

They took a super complex character design like d.va and managed to simplify her kit. That should be a good goal to have.

genji and ashe are actually straight-forward as well. They both can be played in only 1 way.

I would like a more complex hero if they plays well but most of the time they don’t (like sombra, symmetra, doomfist) so I would rather have 1 a simple hero done right than a complex one who is a mess.

Winston and Reinhardt and… that’s about it.

your salt sustains me

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