I simply don’t have the patience for that, when I see someone cannot be reasoned with and that they are going to continually push the boundaries of reality like its centerplace and common I just call them a tinfoil hat, and never reply to anything they say ever again because he has nothing to say worth reading and I have nothing to say to someone that can’t brain what is being said ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=5" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
Yeah exactly… the hidden profile move Blizzard is making it IMO just a way to mask both match making issues and problems of broken heroes/patches letting players vault up 1000-1500+ out of no where.
Oh is that a problem? Does it does show balance issues? Ok hang one we got a fix!! There now you can see the info anymore. You’re welcome.
“Wait, that did not fix anything!”
I said you’re welcome!
Tool like overbuff will not be able to help the community to identify the problem anymore…
I just want the main healer with the highest skill input to be at least as powerful as the low skill input main healers ;.; Mercy has self heals, Ana needs them, Moira has 2 avenues of self healing, and an escape which makes the self healing less important since for both of them, but Ana has to waste a HUGE and sorely needed cooldown to heal herself -.- It’s almost like blizzard want all support mains to not have an avenue to improve their mechanical skill, and want to shun people from that role who wish to play with mechanical skill ;.; I know that’s far fetched but it is how it feels. The healer role when you play what is meta in the main healer slot is such a drag that no one really wants to do it a lot of the time.
just doesn’t engage the braincells or my mechanical improvements 
Self heals for Ana please, I am a Rein main who used to date that lovely woman, and I WANT NANOES, I WANT HER TO BE ALIVE TO NANO ME. PLEASE. Give me self heals or give me death.
I just want to clarify that I do agree there are some instances where Brigette can be overwhelming. If used in a snowball formation with a reinhardt providing barrier, Symmetra used to be great at breaking up those snowballs because of her piercing balls. But now her balls dont pierce anymore so they’re not going to do anything against snowball. Which now makes that snowball even more effective. And yeah, once brigette gets up in your face, you’re pretty much screwed.
You’re supposed to not put yourself in a position where she can get up that close. Force Brigette to play offtank/support healer and she’s still filling a purpose for her team, just not nearly as effective as she could be if you put yourself right in front of her.
The same could be said of roadhog, when he’s ready to ult. If you pit yourself against roadhog when he’s ready to ult, and you go 1v1 with him in a small room and put yourself in a corner, you’re going to die, 100% of the time. But you know not to do that, right, because Roadhog has been in the game since the very beginning, players have 2 years to have learned by now, that certain heroes, you want to avoid certain situations with. People are still learning these situations with Brigette.
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I have no problem with that either, to a degree.
What I don’t like is when someone plays a certain hero that is dependent pretty much entirely on game sense and positioning, and they simply outperform DRASTICALLY another hero that is also pretty much entirely dependent on game sense and positioning.
I find it insulting to my friends and all the players who have played heroes that rely on game sense and position, such as Winston, Mercy, Rein, etc, etc, to have put in many many hours on their respective heroes, and had certain… “within the norm” results. And then other people, who are no better, even arguably worse, in the fields of game sense and positioning, have FAR ABOVE the norm results just by nature of picking Brigitte.
I have a Rein main friend that has managed a 70% win rate on Brigitte, while having like a 55% win rate on Rein. In Plat. They are a Masters Rein main on their main account.
W T F?
It’s insulting. I play aim intensive heroes, that’s what’s fun for me. And I see all these arguments on the forum surrounding “no skill no aim heroes” etc etc, and I hate it, and I see people defending their hero choice, and their skill level, via the demand in game sense and positioning that those heroes require, etc, etc…
And then here comes Brigitte, basically throwing all that out the window.
That’s what I hate.
Don’t get me wrong, she can be punished. Just not at a degree that’s in line with the punishment a Rein, or a Mercy recieves. If I catch a Mercy out of position on Tracer she is DEAD. There is nothing she can do. That is a game sense and positioning skill she failed at.
I catch a Brigitte out of position? Well, I’ll slowly kill you if I have nothing better to do.
That’s a problem for me. It’s insulting to the people that, unlike me, don’t play aim intensive heroes and such. Why should they be punished by me so severely, when Brigitte just gets away?
That’s my fundamental problem with the hero. It’s also what I think accounts for much of her anomalous statistical representation. And that’s why I advocate for lowering her shield health.
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I think the problem lies with the mindset that shes a difficult hero, so you have to manage your cd and position yourself so you can effectively use her. I mean, yeah, shes supposed to be difficult, doesnt mean she should be crippled in the process just for the sake of it. Just make her regen health when she heals an ally. 15hp-20hp per shot or around there.
I like playing Ana from time to time but wasting an E for myself is just annoying and the other healers seem to be the better option at staying alive more so than Ana.
No, you cant date her. Shes already married hehehe
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Well, that’s good, no? I understand that you’re upset about it, but think clearly about it for a second. What’s the impact on a team’s push if Brigette dies, vs. if the Reinhardt dies, or the Mercy dies? If the Mercy dies, there goes the team’s res and main healer, thats a huge loss. If Reinhardt dies, there goes the team’s main tank, huge loss. If Brigette dies, I mean OK, it’s not really the end of the world unless the enemy team decides after that point that they’re going to face rush your team, then I guess you’d be thinking,
“aw man our Brigette is dead this is the time where she would shine!”
You’re comparing Brigette, a support DPS, to the single most valuable tank in the game, arguably, and the single most valuable healer in the game, arguably. Those arent even comparisons. If you’re playing Reinhardt on your team, then you’re arguably the most valuable hero on your team, and so your mistakes should be punished harder than anyone else. Your play skill and positioning should be at best, all the time.
;.; I wanna post the SFM the past of Rein ;.; ANA AND REIN WERE MEANT TO BE.
And yeah, I have talked about symbiotic healing with an Ana main friend of mine I regularly play with c: And yeah, they are a better option for staying alive. The only other healer who has a HEAVY positioning requirement is Zenyatta, and because most of his health is shields, he regens aswell. After noting that Ana is the only healer without a good way to heal themselves (a good way meaning not wasting your most important ability) it seems kind of stupid to not have her have that effect right? Especially when she is the only healer who lacks an option to escape.
EDIT: Reeee I am posting the link to the past of rein, it’s an SFM but it’s so wholesome, its 30 minutes long so watch it whenever you like, but it’s so good ;.;
h ttps://youtu.be/4CmaGoJyXfQ?t=1
Don’t cry now ![:wink:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=5" ":wink:")
I did ;.;
Yes ofc, those two heroes dying is catastrophic when it comes to the teams effectiveness. And again, Brigitte not being such a catastrophic loss, means that if she positions poorly, plays poorly, goes super aggro, or whatever, and has her card pulled… It’s not a big deal.
The punishment isn’t there.
Yet all these heroes have their value completely dependent on how well they can read the game, the team, game sense and positioning, etc. Whereas those other heroes getting killed leads to catastrophic results (meaning their own game sense skill is SO IMPORTANT) a Brig getting killed is… No where near as punishing.
That’s not even touching on how much Brigitte can get away with when positioned poorly due to the design of her kit. She can position FAR MORE extremely and poorly than any other hero just because of her pocket Roadhog, her ability to stun those close, and boop those far away even further away, that might pose a threat, etc, etc.
I don’t find that fair to my Mercy, Rein, Winston, etc friends. I don’t respect someone getting results and being MVP on Brigitte even remotely close to the same being done on Mercy, Rein, Winston, etc.
If we’re going to try to remove the stigma placed on heroes that do not require aim etc, we can’t be defending a hero like Brigitte that achieves insane results while being played poorly relative to EVERY SINGLE OTHER no aim hero. That’s just… Not right. At all.
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I think he already left the building like me c: Bye dood.
there is no “still learning” with Brigitte. She has zero range and is a pure melee hero. Unless one is just a total trash tier SR level player one could figure out everything about her in maybe a few hours of play at max.
The problem is the ENTIRE game is build around pushing down narrow hallways with choke points, standing all around the same 10x10 space to capture a CP or standing with in a few feet of a playload. It’s like trying to always avoid an ex who just happens to work with you. You can’t do it.
That’s what allows low SR players to vault up by one tricking Brigitte. Being she doesn’t get punished for doing much of anything. Then her lame, never should have been in the game stun lets anyone, I mean anyone, gain HUGE value every now and then by pulling off ULT cancels and ability stuns.
The higher skill players in game with a Brigitte on the other team have to be right every time, Brigitte only has to be right once. She spams her stun ever few seconds and sooner or later gets lucky and cancels an ULT or ability that swings an entire team fight.
It’s just terrible low/zero skill game play.
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Not true, I’ve one Trick Moira for 4 seasons. In Season 7 I was Platinum (2600s), Season 8 Low Diamond (3100s), Season 9 Mid Diamond (3300s) and Season 10 I am Masters for the first time at 3600s and climbing.
Yeah, I spent months learning Moira and climbed and climbed. One Tricking can actually help you improve greatly with a certain hero. Just make sure you have 2 other heroes you can use just encase someone takes your main. I went Zarya twice this season and won both games because. Mainly because the first time there was no tanks selected (everyone instant locked a healer or a dps) and the second time another Moira one trick too her from me. So I let them have her while I be tank.
I disagree with alot of things he has said, but I still think it’s important to tell you that he meant people learning to deal with the situations brigitte imposes on players. Not learning brigitte herself.
While I think mostly people get how to play against her, they are struggling to actually pull it off unless they are strictly meta.
See you in the next circle jerk echo chamber
Okay gotcha, so if what you’re saying is that: “Her kit is OK it’s just the stun needs to be removed from her charge” and possibly lower her shield a little bit, then yeah I would agree with you. Her playability wouldn’t be wrecked by removing her stun, it would just level the field for everyone else a bit.
Show me statistics that show that boosting during season 10 is much higher than boosting during any other season, fool. And boosting on Brigitte? Are you kidding me? LOL
In other words, “I can’t disprove anything you say so I’m just going to live in my own little fairytale land where Brigitte is perfectly fine and healthy for the game because your logic is ruining my own bias.”
Couldn’t help it 
forgive me!
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You might see me, but from here on out, we aren’t even going to talk to eachother, because you have nothing to say worth reading, and I have nothing to say to someone who isn’t worth talking to as you would never EVER get what is being said. SO like yeah, the forum lacks a block feature to get rid of people like you from my sight, so I’m just going to act in the future like you have said absolutely nothing because the reasons above. Ciao!
Lol this just made me giggle. It reminds me of this time when I was a kid, and my sister got mad at my mom, so she wrote a note on a piece of paper and left it on the stairs, it said something like “I hate you and I never want to talk to you again! -Love you”
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Is the boosting issue being addressed by actual reputable YouTube channels not enough?
The information is there for you to seek out.
The boosting issue is a result of a under funded amateur professional league for OW.
I’m just going to look at her 56% winrate, remember that you guys think playing her takes you instantly from silver to GM, laugh to myself and make dinner.
But by all means, feel free to continue talking about me in this conversation about the game.
Peace <3