Should overwatch have WGM's like in chess?

It stands for woman grandmaster. Despite chess being a non-physically demanding activity, they still separate men and women in their own divisions. This system was designed to enable more women to feel comfortable participating in a largely male dominated field.

Does a game like overwatch have the same issue? With the new champion rank about to be released, very few players will be able to obtain it, and even less of whom are women. Is it feasible to suggest that the requirements for higher ranks should be lowered for women as it is in chess?

For example a male chess GM starts around 2500 elo. But you can become a WGM at 2300 elo. They have similar qualifications for lesser titles such as IM/WIM (international master) and FM/WFM (fide master).

Despite this, some women chess players have managed to reach the title of standard GM’s. Since the “men’s division” is actually an open division consisting of both men and women. Whilst the women’s division is exclusively for women only.

Currently there are no women in the top 100 officially rated chess players. But in the past there have been a few. Most notably, the brilliant Judit Polgar, who at her peak was among the top 10 players, both genders included.

If overwatch were to adopt a similar rating system, let’s say with GM starting at 4000 SR. And champion at perhaps 4500. Would it encourage more women to compete for these titles if the requirements were lowered to accompany their smaller player base? So a WGM could begin at 3500, and a WC at 4000. Even master could be lowered to 3000 for a WM.

You might ask, but how would the game know who is a man or a woman? I believe you can already choose this in your Blizzard profile. If not, it would not be very difficult to implement such an option for players to choose which gender they identify as.

Thoughts?

That just ruins the rank and it would be impossible to know if someone is actually a woman or not, its not physically demanding and we already have female top500 players I don’t see the point.

Some of the top players in OW have been women. Geguri comes to mind. She was an actual pro. The reason they introduced female GM titles in chess is because there were literally no or barely any high ranking women players at the time.

You people would just lie, heck I would lie to get a higher rank if I turn out to be hardstuck GM1 when champion comes out.

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There is no women’s division in OW so this is a very complicated thing to implement in a team game like OW compared to a single player game like chess.

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So, segregation based on irrelevant factors?

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Didn’t wanna read this but I sure as hell hope it’s satire lmao :rofl:

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Nah.

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I assume you’re trolling, but we got something kind of sort of like this

why do we need a woman’s grandmaster? Are they inherently worse than male grandmasters? If not no thanks

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In anyone can enter it or “identify”, it kills the whole point of having it to begin with.

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Theoretically, yes. It should.

Realistically, no. It can’t. It would be impossible to enforce short of having every Competitive player (or at least the WGM ones) upload ID to prove that they qualify.

This is something this is doable in Chess because of in-person tournaments. It’s not possible to do in Overwatch where the majority of gameplay is anonymous and online.

Sucks, but that’s the nature of the beast.

To compensate for shortcomings like this, tournaments like Calling All Heroes are an attempt at showcasing underrepresented groups within the Overwatch Esports scene instead. It’s not a perfect solution, but it’s a decent one.

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wouldnt a drivers ID be more than sufficient?

You know, it is literally sexism to make a separate rank for just women in anything that isn’t physical, right? Women don’t have it harder in video games. Therefore, making a separate rank for them is essentially saying “Hey, we don’t think a female can be good at games, so here’s a handout.”

It’s insulting to women, and more insulting to women that are good at the game. No.

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Why?

it’s funny how OP was suggesting having a lower sr requirement to get the same rank as a woman

as if women were physically unable to hit the “normall” sr requirement to get a certain rank

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Literally though.

At this point, might as well ask for a separate rank for every minority. I’m black and gay. Where’s my colored GM? Where’s my queer (is queer even offensive anymore? Lmao) rank?

Totally not insulting :skull:

Sure. Who’s going to check them all? Who’s going to be OK with being required to upload their government ID to Blizzard just to play Competitive?

Not worth the effort, not worth the controversy.

I didnt know Baptiste lurked around on these forums that’s crazy

Okay that’s a horrible joke I have no idea why i said that

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Right on cue, the fragile guy that thinks something is being taken away from him because a minority is being represented.

So predictable. Straight to the ignore list.

No it’s actually hilarious lmao

You made my day

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Aww, that’s cute.

Did you not see this?

I’m ignored because you know you have no reasoning or way to counter this

Admit it. You just want handouts because you aren’t good at the game. Women that are actually good, such as Eskay, would be laughing at you.