Should it be silence or ban worthy?

So recently, I’ve experienced some hatred from other players that criticize (to put it nicely), my gameplay abilities. I’ve specifically been queueing tank because most other players seem to not want to play tank. I get fast matches. I like the characters. It’s my cup of tea.

I am, admittedly, not the best at tanking, but I am at least out there trying to make an effort by not doing the same thing over and over like walking down the same pathway only to die again and again or trying to flank the same target that continues to have the upper hand.

What I have a problem with, are the people that can make comments about such players without any true repercussions. They live to speak poorly another match. Most of these people that simply state, “switch” or “don’t play tank” never seem to have anything positive to say in place of these statements.

How is it so difficult- with one being so knowledgeable to comment with their expertise on such roles/tasks- that they seem to be unable to provide quality suggestions, tactics, or other forms of advice?

How is it so difficult for Overwatch, being so inclusive with such diverse demographics whilst promoting a positive environment, to be able to actually “clean up” their own “wonderful” community?

Should statements such as “switch off [hero]” or “don’t play [role]” be an offense worthy of silence or bans?

This post is in honor of Portergaming#1437

No. Criticism isn’t ban worthy.

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Not even remotely. Its absurd that its even considered ban worthy, let alone silence worthy. Sure the “dont play [role]” comment is rude, but its not like its a war crime

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I think you’re thinking of “constructive criticism” or “positive feedback” which are not what most players do.
The criticism provided by most players is not only negative, but can also incite negative behaviors. I.e. This entire post.

There should be no reason for anybody to feel like they need to speak up about something that seems so trivial, but when it ruins peoples’ experiences in a such a positive, uplifting, and friendly game, then shouldn’t there be some form of punishment if silences and bans are too heavy?

And yet from my experience it is, I’m very harsh with myself and it bleeds into my interactions with other players, I’ll be blunt and dry about what I think they should do or I’ll go “switch x” and I get flamed for being toxic more often than not, my main account even got permabanned because I was asking too much in QP to “please stop feeding” because apparently it’s a crime to want to regroup and not watch my teammates feed on cooldown, customer support told me that if there are enough reports then they are valid, they don’t actually care what was said.

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Did you pay them to coach you?

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Are you in chat with them or upset about the quick things typed in the few seconds between death and respawn? Often if you cant talk with your team they just type the minimum instead of afking for 10 minutes to write out all the ways to improve your plays.

It is the only thing I have ever seen people banned for. :skull:

I never comment on how people play in my team, nor ask them to switch or things like that. I’m bad enough myself that I don’t think it would be fair to do so. Besides, sometimes, you simply have a bad match, where you just don’t do well, for “no reason”.

My main complaint about tanks (as a mostly support player) can be summed up like this : they’re either too aggressive, or not enough. I’m sure the balance is hard to find, but this is what mostly annoys me : they either rush in, out of LOS of heals, alone, OR they stay passive, hiding, not taking space.

That being said, you can’t expect people to write constructive comments during a game when you can’t even type while walking… So they usually resort to short comments, often out of frustration. I don’t think it’s a reason for a silence or ban. If you don’t wanna read those comments, you can always turn them off.
Keep doing your efforts, keep trying different things, I’m sure you’ll get better. Doesn’t mean you won’t get snarky comments from time to time, but… I wouldn’t worry too much about them. When I get them, I know that either a) I really did mess up or b) people are just frustrated that we are losing, and they are lashing out on the most obvious “target”. Either way, it’s fine, and not a reason to silence or ban, imo.

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Who says this is supposed to be some kind of safe space? It’s a competitive shooter. Give me a break.

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According to Blizzard politics, anything that even remotely upsets people is toxic and thus should be punished

Absolutely NO. A really big no. I say this because you can literally silence/mute/block anyone in a matter of seconds. So actually, you have the power to insta-silence these people if you wish. You don’t need Bliz to do it.

Things are getting so watered down these days that everything has lost its meaning. Toxic used to be toxic. Now toxic is saying “Diva into Mei, Zarya, Brig, Moira isn’t working…need to switch or it’s GG”.

100% against threats, genuine racist comments, and legit hate/vulgarity. But man, even then…Safe spaces are so stupid. Especially when you can create your very own safe space via block/mute.

Crazy thing is, the older you get the less you care about what a sweaty dude-bro-frat guy has to say and the more you start using block/mute lol. I silence people all the time if they just slightly annoy me or I don’t want to hear what’s in their pea-brain. It’s super easy. I’m like Roger Murtaugh in Lethal Weapon…I’m just too old for this !@#$.

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If you are learning how to play a role in compet, not in QP, then it’s you who should be banned.

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If you play the game thats enough for you to get banned

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You’re going to have a very rough life ahead of you if this how expect people to be.

Telling people to switch or stop feeding shouldn’t get any penalty at all. At worst it should get a permanent silence. But Blizzard’s made it clear at this point that it doesn’t matter what you do, or how you do it, if enough people are annoyed by anything, your account can be penalized and ultimately banned.

Anyone that thinks otherwise, no matter how much they disagree with it, will find out the hard way eventually.

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I can’t even play comp yet, because of the “new player” challenge of winning 50 games to even queue.

No.

However, you are free to ignore them if they’re spamming it and getting on your nerves.

Yeah you are right, if you don’t play the game, its highly unlikely to get banned.
Good one bud.

Sadly, as you can see above, if you are throwing criticism very often, this will trigger people’s reports and yes, you can get suspended for it.

Sure they will remove it on appeal, but your account will be level 0 endorsement with no comms so good luck taking the risk :rofl:

I’m pretty sure this is meant to be sarcastic, but just in case it isn’t;
They’re not actually knowledgeable on your role/tasks. They’re just frustrated that things aren’t going their way, and rather than looking inward to see how they could improve their own play, they perceive you to be the cause of their troubles, and thus take out their frustrations on you.

There’s practically no barrier of entry with Overwatch 2 being F2P, so even if a toxic player gets banned, nothing’s stopping them from just making a new account and playing again. Also it’s not as if people are just born inherently toxic or something, they become that way over time due to many different circumstances, the vast majority of which Blizzard/Overwatch have no control over whatsoever. That is to say, almost any non-toxic player could suddenly become toxic due to some irl event, making “cleaning up the community” an impossible goal to realistically achieve.

In my opinion, no. There are many scenarios where these statements would be perfectly fine to say, and aren’t meant to be hostile at all. Of course such statements could be used in a rude manner, but I don’t think they should be ban worthy just based on that. If someone is being rude to you, or just getting on your nerves for whatever reason, you can just mute them. And if anyone is being outright offensive or hostile, you can feel free to report them as well.

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