Should blizzard nerf Junk

He and Roadhog had an argument that escalated.

If you want his mines to do self-damage, Blizz would have to buff his mid-long range power massively to compensate for that.

He had self-damage once and it just made him terrible on all ranges, the buff took away his major weakness and allow him to perform at close range (Which was his most effective range, even with self-damage at the time.).

Well you cant do that!! He has a highlight where he launches himself off a mine!! You’re change would make that highlight make no sense.

Respect the highlight my guy!!

Besides, mines never did self-damage, only nades.

That could just mean that the projectile detection was always broken, but the enormous nade size made it unnoticeable.

Wouldn’t it be exactly the opposite tho? At higher ranks people actually know how to aim projectiles and should have less problem hitting the nades. Buffing the size will just make him into another “pick me if you’re not pulling your weight” hero.

I also disagree with you on the pickrate argument. First of all his pickrate across all ranks was ~2% in the last 6 months. Secondly, the reason his pickrate is not as highas some might want it to be is that other heroes simply outperform junk due to power creep. Pretty much the same thing happened to tracer. She’s not weak, she’s a victim of power and cc creep and by giving her(or junk) a crutch you won’t solve anything.

:smiling_imp: did he bbq it after and have a feast?

honestly, I was thinking about it doing a small amount of self damage to make him go faster :smiling_imp: so he can be even more evil.

Imagine Junkrat blasting off like Demoman in tf2 :sunglasses:

Tracer is neither a victim of power or CC creep, she’s just not effective due to the meta and how many shields there are. Remove those, and Tracer is still strong along side with the tons of issue she used to plague other games.

Junkrat is neither of those since he has no area he can perform wellnor does he has something to provide that other heroes already do but better.

Junkrat needs a buff, be it bigger hitbox, mines or even damage.

Dormammu i’ve come to bargain.

If you can’t necro threads without a reason, what is a good reason ?
I just wanted to respond to some threads that are more relevant to me, but you ban me and remove all my posts without a reason.
You just slap a child who can’t even speak and expect them to understand your telepathy.
You have lost your mind Dormammu, your way, and your people Dormammu.

p.s. if you dont want necro, just prevent responding to aged posts or give me a valid reason of why my reason isnt a reason and what the secret reason is to be able to reply to an older post, that i can clearly reply to but apparently if it upsets a soft shelled candy fish it is enough for ghosting me from the forums with no reason.

whats the point, they just secret police nerf him without saying anything and then ghost you from their servers without saying anything and then release overwatch 9 without releasing the other 7

My issue with buffing his projectile size is that combined with the projectile speed buffs he will not only be able to easily deny chokes, but it will also be virtually impossible to miss you target at close range.

But she is. Shields were never a problem for tracer. She was supposed to be a flanker. That role is non-exitant these days due to the amount of cc, burst and self sustain added to the game. Most of the cast can either 1 shot her or cc her long enough to kill her or make her flee.

In my understanding junk is a shield buster/ area denial hero. Both those things are done better by hanzo. Junk lost his role because of too much power given to hanzo and other heroes that can pray on junk. The logical thing would be to lower the power levels of other heroes instead of contributing to power creep by buffing junk.

Junk needs smol buff. Definitely not nerf though.

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Yea, it’s almost like he’s a specialist in close quarter and area denial? Which he’s suppose to do?

He also still has one of the slower projectiles in the game and his ricochet is all but gone. If people still can’t learn to wait for tanks to proceed and not stand in the choke after 3 years, consider me having little sympathy.

Even if you do nerf Hanzo, guess what? Junkrat is still useless because why would you play him when there’s other better choice? Even Pharah isn’t exactly terrible as an option despite all the hitscans.

Junkrat is basically a specialist that isn’t even strong in his own territory, and that’s made clear during the period where he had his mine nerf which had the higher tier basically shelving him as he had nothing else to provide aside from maybe tire (And even then, in recent OWL games, rarely do teams that run junkrat for defense actually win or succesfully defend.)

Junkrat needs a buff, the 140 nade was given to him as a way to keep up with the rest of the cast but got cut down (Which meant that there’s still 5-10% needed for Junkrat to actually compete with other DPS on a more even footing.).

Tracer problem isn’t due to the her being one-shot or CCed.

The biggest problem she has right now is that she can’t be effective through all the shield being put up. Her core kit itself is still fine which Junkrat isn’t after the two absolutely hamstring nerf to his bread and butter.

Brig, her effective counter, is gutted. You can’t even punish a Tracer properly since the combo is gone. Moira? She’s used more as a detterent than actual way to stop Tracer.

The core issue of Tracer was never actually touched, her ult was the last of that problem and this whole mess we’re is due to blizz refusal to simply nerf tracer in the first place.

Comparing Tracer situation to Junkrat isn’t even close since the latter was never part of a core meta that dominated a season so thoroughly and had little changes to her kit.

Junkrats mine nerfs were 3 months before hanzo’s rework and brigs introduction tho

I thought it was 8 months. Junkrat got that buff in August of 2017, and Hanzo got reworked in April of 2018.

Yes that is when he got the buff to give him double mines but the nerf that gave falloff to his double mines came 3 months before the hanzo rework

Yeah, but Zuma stated he played when Junk got buffed, not nerfed.

Yes but he also said it was junkrat hanzo brigitte every match, Brigitte hadnt been released yet, and Hanzo was still a throw pick before his rework

Widow-main wants junkrat nerfed.

This is new and exciting.

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True. He probably didn’t know it got nerfed.