Shameless return of weekly event skin

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Not only is blizzard returning a weekly event challenge skin from overwatch 1, they are selling it in the shop instead of just bringing it back as a weekly challenge again.

Subaquatic Zenyatta was supposed to be only available by participating in a 2021 Archives week 2 challenge event. Bringing it back for sale in a shop is a slap in the face to OW1 players. There are much fancier zen skins like the OWL ones or the other event ones, the only reason people ever used Subaquatic was to show “hey, I played during old overwatch and got this exclusive limited skin for it.” But no, they’ve now thrown the precedent of limited OW1 skins out the window. So expect to lose the uniqueness of owning ragdoll echo etc.

Not only that, but they didn’t even bother to fix the visual bug with zenyatta’s primary fire while using the skin. A bug that’s been present since the start of OW2. How desperate for more money can they possibly be.

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The people who didn’t have it had never heard of it and were not impressed by it.

The people who has it never used it because there was much better skins to wear and we’re not impressed by it.

The people who did have it and did wear it probably wore it for the reasons you listed above, and I feel really bad for them because that’s a pretty sad reason to wear a skin and I’m not impressed by it.

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Expect 99% of the skins for sale since OW2 monetization is going full swing. I don’t think any skin should be gatekeeped and it has been a while already. You should be more worried about real issues.

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and people wear skins from the limited season battlepass bundles and shop to show that they spend more money on this game.

Any skin new since OW2 and OWL skins are fair since they are new for the ow2 dev team and owl skins already had the precedent to return.

But the weekly challenge skins have always been exclusive to that week. Pachimari roadhog was at least still obtainable from an event like it was before. It’s the same thing with player icons and sprays tied to specific competitive seasons or years. They exist to be mementos of that specific time. Let people who enjoy that keep it, there’s countless other things for new players to enjoy. Skins you can’t even obtain anymore aren’t even viewable in the hero gallery without filters, and some not viewable at all even with filters like Monk Doomfist (another weekly event challenge)

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I used it, it’s my favorite zen skin

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I know players rant on everything here but this is really stretching it.

If someone didn’t participate in an event he has no idea the skin came from that event, unless he purposefully skipped it. So whats the big deal?

If youre showing a skin from an old event you don’t really expect people who weren’t here for the event to be awed do you? Youre saying people who wear the battlepass skins are showing off how much money they pour into this game?
Mate, that’s not how it works. People wear what they like in general. They get new skins and try them out, keep them or return to old ones. Or they want to have some variety and cycle through them.

I do wear a Forest Ranger Fan McNade skin sometimes but thats not a skin I would put in a top 5 skins for this hero. The Invisible Man skin though is fantastic. I do own his New Blood Challenge skin from 2021, Sandstorm, but it’s so obscure I don’t think anyone would even notice its exclusive - hardly anyone ever wears this.

And all of the above are indeed exclusive, cause for all we know the Invisible Man BAMF might not appear anymore in the Shop or for how long; it’s tied to a Season 3 OW2 Battle Pass for now, thus exclusive if we account for people who didn’t/couldn’t play/pay during that time.

This is not a slap in the face towards OW players. Quite the contrary - “Exclusive skins” or “exclusive pre-order DLC” is one of the most dumb and greedy concepts in gaming and in general people should be against this, not supporting the idea. This is the true insult to gamers.

Besides you do know they already released skins for a second time technically, and without a paywall. At the conclusion of OW1 they made events that allowed you to gather several previously exclusive skins that were locked behind events earlier, like the Kyogisha Hanzo or Combat Medic Baptiste. By this logic should the people playing the original Kanezaka Challenge in January 2021 feel offended?

It’s not exclusive anymore then. If you redo an event and tie a hero skin to that event for a second time it loses exclusivity right then and there, as it can no longer represent whether someone was here and played it years ago or just yesterday.

The shop is quite similar in this regard - it’s gonna dissapear in a week and reappear at a later date, so you tehcnically could say you bought an exclusive Zen skin that was available in the shop from 25.04.2023-1.05.2023.

Also previously some exclusive skins from events like the Lunar New Year or Summer Games were available from the shop for Coins. You just had to wait for that event again next year.

This complaint makes no logical sense. Most skins are not really exclusive and for all intents and purpouses of gaming they shouldn’t.

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Why are people even surprised? OW2 only exist to be a cash grab.

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I’ve used the snowman roadhog or ragdoll echo skin and people comment on it saying “woah what skin is that ive never seen it” and I would tell them it was a limited weekly challenge skin from ow1.

Then they can reintroduce them as weekly challenges to get them for free. NOT put them in the shop with a paywall. I missed one of the weekly challenge skins. I’d love the chance to get it again of course, but not as a paid shop item.

It is understood that new ow2 skins that appear in the shop would most likely just remain shop exclusive and be reran at some point in time. The way they also resell previous ow1 skins like summer games etc is also a joke, since majority of players got them for free by grinding lootboxes. It was so blatantly a cash grab, but I honestly didn’t expect them to get even worse than that. The system they had to get the event skins for credits in ow1 worked just fine since they were all essentially free anyway and you had to buy the game.

Games like team fortress 2, and im assuming destiny 2 (dont know much about destiny 2) used to be pay to play. They then went free to play. Tf2 in particular has items like proof of purchase hat or medals for people who played the game when it was pay to play can have as mementos and to show off they’ve been there. Also there are genuine grade weapons or cosmetics that were only available during limited time promotions with other games or some other method.
I’m sure destiny 2 also had cosmetics that were available before it went free to play, and I doubt they would bring those cosmetics back for the free players to obtain because there would be backlash, and rightly so.

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I’m honestly 100% for the return of these skins.
To me there nothing more then just a seasonal epic skin and a little perk is knowing i have a chance at Mistletoe Symmetra afterall.

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I don’t really agree with the idea of gatekeeping skins, but you really should not be surprised.

OW 2 is a cash grab.

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I’m sorry but that does not make logical sense to me.
What difference does it make if they reintroduce the challenge or make you pay for it.
I mean it does make a difference from a cash grab standpoint. That stands to reason.
But it don’t make a skin exclusive. Exclusivity must meet certain principles, if they break them it stops being exclusive.
Like if they release Uncharted on Xbox it’s not gonna be a PS Exclusive anymore or if they allowed women into XVIII c. english Gentleman’s Clubs. I’m joking a little but you get the idea…

The LootBoxes are a conundrum of a sort. In that it’s gambling because you don’t know what you gonna get in the end. Granted it’s not as bad as it was in EA Games for example.
Still people not only grinded for LootBoxes, but they also bought them in spades. I myself sometimes bought over a 100 during an event. But you wont always get what you want out of them, and here lies the problem.
The Shop may be overpriced but at least you see what you are buying. You could have bought or won a ton of lootboxes but still get only skins for heroes you don’t play.

Anyway I’m not too keen on keeping skins exclusive.
The way games are handling it now is kinda fine with me. Release it first as an free obtainable and later allow people who missed this event buy them. It’s still their loss of money, and its better than keeping skins truly exclusive, i.e. not obtainable at all ever.

Sure if they want to redo a event its great. But the Shop is better than nothing. I’m not gonna buy all skins anyway - just the ones that are cool for heroes I play as.

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Just like in fall guys

when Fall Guys went F2P so much of the old stuff all returned but for money lol with a few exceptions Legacy DLC + valvE related costumes e.g P-Body/Scout because CEO of Epic really dislikes valvE

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They changed lootbox mechanics really early into the game. If you had one legendary event skin missing, and you rolled a legendary from a box of that event (obtained from the same year), it’d be guaranteed to be that skin. If you had every item, you’d get mostly dupes to give you coins. When there was a new event with new skins, you could get all the skins easily just by playing. This is how people have hundreds of thousands of legacy credits.

High chances are that if you made it to gold border and a few stars or higher you got every item in the game for free.

And yes destiny 2 did have events and stuff from when it was pay to play, that do not return when it becomes free to play.

All other skins and new skins to ever exist in overwatch will just be sold in the shop or bp now. The MINISCULE amount of skins that were from event challenges, i dont even think there were more than 20 total, should NOT be brought back, at least in the shop. They could make new event challenge skins if they wanted, but keep the old ones exclusive to their respective years. There are infinitely more ways for them to vacuum away people’s money, and getting an extra 10-17 dollars from <20 old exclusive skins should not have been on their mind.

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I thought they created Overwatch 2 to keep adding new content into the game, not to recycle the old content which original players worked for. I wonder where is that huge and consistent promised content. Maybe those modern profits are not high enough to satisfy greed, so the old emblematic content is needed for selling once more.

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The fact that OW 2 exists is enough proof that nothing will ever satisfy such greed.

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I love to see the only unique thing OW1 players had being sold for a quick buck!

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They’ve been doing that this whole time. Every now and then, I’d find a skin for sale that I already owned from OW1.

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Well yes, but the difference is simple. In season 1 and 2 of OW2 you could purchase all ow1 lootbox skins (event etc) with legacy credits, and if you didnt have enough legacy credits the only option available would be to purchase with the new premium coins.

After season 2, it seems they’ve completely locked a few skins from ow1 only to make them available through twitch prime, ps4, ps5, xbox etc. Examples being Lifeguard pharah, waveracer dva, midnight dva, sprinkles mei, and there’s more.
That was a scummy change.

The skins that I am talking about in my post are ones like Subaquatic zenyatta, camouflage mercy, cybermedic ana, fleur de lis widowmaker, which were skins that were only available during a 1 week challenge in a specific year. Their previous description was “obtainable by completing 2019 summer games weekly challenge” or something similar. Those skins were not viewable in the hero gallery no matter which filters you put unless you already owned them. When they put those in the shop and even before some hit the shop, they sneakily changed the text to “sometimes available in the shop” and they put them in the shop for premium coins only, and you still can’t view it in the hero gallery so you are forced to buy the skin via bundle only.

Removing the description text of it being an old skin and making it only available for premium coins in the shop is deceptive marketing making new players think that it is a new skin they made for ow2.
And it’s a slap to ow1 players for taking away small but significant (to us or me at least) things that were unique to og players.

This is not like other challenge skins for the legendary skins like pachimari roadhog or dr zeigler mercy, or even epics like nano cola dva. Those aren’t tied to a specific year and have their own themed challenges which have returned before. So there is precedent for Deadlocke ashe to return as a challenge skin which is fine, but those skins that are specific to a certain year are legacy ones that should have stayed legacy.
Like blizcon 2016 bastion 2017 winston etc. However those are different because people spent good money on tickets to get them. The demon hunter sombra was announced beforehand that it would be from blizcon and a weekly challenge in the future.

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Just be happy you got a skin for free. They have to pay for it if they want it you didnt. I dont see the big problem

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tell me you’re a sad OW2 player without telling me you are a sad OW2 player. dude your arguments are flawed the whole point of skins is to show off and look good and if that skin is special and a show off because it’s “obtainable for a limited time only” then it should stay that way there’s no reason skin should be back in the shop again for grabs just cause. the least thing they should’ve done is at least have a special recolor or style of that skin for the originals who had it like how Fortnite does.