I play with a friend a lot who mainly uses the sniper heroes (Widow, Ana, Ashe, and Hanzo). Whenever I refer to this fact, they always get very confused why I call Ashe a sniper (and sort of Hanzo but not as much).
They say that a sniper requires aiming through a scope that limits your FOV, and Ashe just aiming down sights doesn’t count. Personally I qualify all four as snipers, but is this me having faulty logic?
Ashe and Hanzo are designated marksmen.
They are medium range heroes, not long-distance snipers.
McCree is also a designated marksman.
tf is a dedicated marksman
I suppose thats a fair enough distinction. I prefer calling all of them snipers to be more concise, but I respect it I guess
I’m pretty sure Overwatch at least considers her a sniper, as she’ll add to the “Too many Snipers!” warning when initially building your team composition
Yeah, I like to refer to them all as snipers just because you pick them for similar needs. It’s a good overarching category, even if Hanzo and Ashe aren’t quite like Widow.
designated, sorry.
A designated marksman (DM), squad advanced marksman (AD) or squad designated marksman is a military role in an infantry squad.
The DM’s role is to supplement the attached squad by providing accurate fire upon enemy targets at distances up to 600 metres (660 yd). Due to the need for repeated effective fire, the DM is usually equipped with a scoped semi-automatic rifle called a Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR). Like snipers, DMs are trained in scouting and precise shooting, but unlike the more specialized “true” sniper (who often operate independently), they operate as an intrinsic part of an infantry fireteam, and are tasked to lay down accurate support fire at valuable targets as per tactical necessity, thus extending the reach of the fireteam.
Ashe is considered a Sniper in game / by the devs I believe.
But personally, no, as someone who has played a lot of her, I don’t consider her a Sniper.
ashe and hanzo can easily play alone or in a small group with a mercy
They can but this is not how they are most effective. They are most effective close to and just behind their team. This is evidenced by Ashe’s fall-off damage and the mechanics of Hanzo’s bow and arrow speed/arrow drop.
playing by themselves or with a mercy on a high ground or off angle
I think so
and btw this game isn’t anywhere close to real life, hanzo ashe widow are all much more ranged then cree soldier, and don’t benefit from playing with their team as much as playing high ground
there is a too many snipers warning?
im surprised i don’t get that more often, if you ask me more then one is too many, if its a widowmaker and an ana thats fine, but if its a widow and a hanzo i just sigh.
Until they get jumped by Winston or Reaper or Tracer or Genji and can’t get back to their team for a peel in time.
We’re talking about how they are usually most effective, not how effective they are against potatoes.
I don’t think those exist in a Role Queur environment (for more obvious) reasons, but if you play in any Classic mode, you can find those, yes
I think its kind of relegated to QPC and OQ now after role lock (idk if Ana sets it off)
a single genji or reaper?
a hanzo ashe losing a 1v1 to them? and yes it isn’t hard to jump off high ground and go to your supports on low ground
You are just completely missing what I’m saying. Right over your head, wooosh.
Hanzo, Ashe, and McCree cannot effectively play at the same range as Widowmaker. They are not snipers.
Bye now.
no even in qpc i have never got that, even with all hitscan comps. probs because i switch to healer if there are that many dps snipers on a team.
I really don’t see how Ashe is a sniper. She has much worse damage fall off than Widow and her damage per hit doesn’t feel like a sniper to me. I’d sooner call Zen a sniper than Ashe.
no but in they play literally exactly like your definition of a sniper
you can argue that widows range is the largest by far but grouping hanzo ashe near soldier cree as heroes that play inside the team?