Well, it’s subjective, but it made me stop playing tank, Rein is kind of a “must pick”, the easiest to babysit, follow and enable to get value out of, Orisa not trustworthy to gain space, Sigma not trustworthy to hold space, Dive can work, but it’s just sufferable to work it out, double off tanks has so much exposure and ult charge give away…
Ugh…
They need to find away to make tanks strong but take away tank synergy, I think. The need for synergy effectively cuts an already limited roster in half.
Do I think tank balance is ok?
No. Absolutely as far away from ok as physically / mentally possible.
Rein is literally a must pick in every single match… it’s stupid.
proper 6v6 teams, yeah fairly balanced.
solo qeue… no not really.
No, and neither is the rest of the game. The balance is bad across the board. Ironically this is probably the best it has been; however, I am not sure that is saying all too much.
Dont know about balance. But, personally, they are always just frustrating to play. You dont feel tanky. Get pushed around. Stunned. Hooked. etc.
Nope. Tanks should be these mountainous stone walls that you can’t reliably take on by yourself. Most of them feel like punching bags. Rein’s in a pretty good place, but the other tanks need to be brought up to his level.
And Devs won’t do it because they are afraid of Double Barrier again.
I wasn’t expecting anything to happen immediately, but I was hoping we’d have seen an Experimental mode trying out tank changes for 222 by now. From my point of view, it’s the role that’s in the worst shape fun-wise, and the queue times lead me to believe I’m not alone.
No. Only DPS mains would say it’s balanced because Rein enables more DPS as opposed to other tank combos. For tank players its utter trash because only 1 tank can actually do their job with the least path of resistance.
None of that makes logical sense but by all means keep picking a boogeyman where none truely exists.
Tank balance is fine outside of Rein so lower Rein and everything else is fine.
No, Orisa needs a revert to pre shield health status so that the game has another, competitive anker tank, Sigma needs his one shot combo back but Accretion should be countered by Defense Matrix, Deflect and Kinetic Grasp, Reinhardt needs Steadfast completely removed, D.va needs 70% movement speed while firing, Wrecking Ball needs the Proximity Mines nerf reverted, Roadhog needs the distance his Hook pulls targets reverted to 3m in front of him, Zarya is fine, Winston is probably fine as soon as Steadfast is gone.
I think the ideal balance point is where Wrecking Ball is a hard counter to Reinhardt and Winston is a soft counter to him when he Primal Rages. Double shield meta can comeback but with Sigma’s shield still nerfed to 900, D.va can keep up with Reinhardt and Orisa after their speed buffs and Wrecking Ball and Roadhog get minor buffs for general consistency.
Game fixed, if Reinhardt lags behind without Steadfast then revert his shield health to 2k and keep 70% speed.
Rein is a must pick because orisa is trash
No, and until Blizzard changes how Orisa and Sigma interact with players it will never will be.
The lack of counter play with the both is why they got nerfed.
This is also what makes me believe we will no longer get any shield tanks because of double barrier and that Sigma or especially Orisa will ever be good solo shield tanks. I’m just so sick of Reinhardt even if the characters I play counter him.
But hey the community is happy that Reinhardt is the meta tank because if he isn’t the community is out to believe the meta is really bad. I want old Orisa back but I just feel like Sigma ruined Orisa and Hog because there felt like there was a natural balance Reinhardt/Zarya & Orisa/Roadhog but now its completely gone thanks to Sigma.
Yeah I dont get why they never thought how they needed to sort out tanks, if one hero is getting picked in a role almost all the time - you clearly have problems.
They aren’t the boogeyman in this scenario they are just the ones who have a skewed sense of what “balance” means for tanks.
To the main point, essentially, Tank balance is very lame right now. There are two extremities; must pick and horrible pick, no happy middle.
The quick matches I’ve played recently that have no Rein on either team are blissful.
Its probably the worst its ever been, which is quite the accomplishment.
Maybe the devs really do hate tank players.
You basically strawmanned a group, said they think a thing with no evidence to based your opinion on and decided that only they think this thing that you have no reason to believe they think in the first place.
Rein does not really open up a lot of DPS to viability relative to the other tanks especially more than the other tanks combined. If I were going to pick people who would support a strong Rein it would be of course Rein mains and Support players, but I would not pretend that only they think that because I have no basis for that assertion.