Edit: Currently you can head shot when not even aiming at a character idk who playtested this but uh ya.
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ooh wow one dps
meanwhile the entire tank role is going to suffer
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i wouldnt mind a full rework. if she is problematic design for the devs and they want the game not have burst or one-shots then i hope they rework her to be something else?
what i would really hope for is a rework and a lore story ark for it like a redemption arc. since she is a ballerina in her former state, maybe make her a ballerina support lol or a high mobile one
thats just wacky thinking tho and yea what i REALLY REALLY want is launch widowmaker but I KNOW that will never happen unless they release classic overwatch in the future like they did with WoW 
I’m cheering! I hate widow and hanzo, i hope they are garbage tier now 
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Just the fact Widows has passive healing makes her so more painful to play against. You need to deliver 200dmg or she’ll just start shooting again after 5s… Without moving, without revealing herself.
Imo she can increase her winrate by a lot this season.
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She can still one shot. And it’s easier to hit. She’ll be okay.
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Don’t forget that a lot of the people who can duel her got buffed (doom, monke, moira, etc). Also more hp means that the damage dropoff will reduce her one shot range from 50m now to something significantly lower.
Yeah, she now has 80% of the 200 hp character’s hp instead of 87% at 175 vs 200. The problem is that now that they’ve made headshots easier to hit with her projectile size increase, anyone will be able to pick her up and land shots. She won’t be as rewarding anymore.
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yea thats why im thinking she is gonna be worse in low/mid elos but in high neutral and the top most ranks maybe better not sure since of course the crazy insane widow players will still hit that full charge one shot the same as before…
we wont know till the season drops tho i guess
i mean if you are an average widow in low/mid ranks and you have heroes like that diving you its pretty difficult… so this season its might as well just switch right away
This is pretty much every hero. They like all take more shots to kill. Lucky for widow, she keeps her one shot where others do not.
True, we shall see how that goes. If it’s an issue maybe it will be increased.
Good. Widow dominated maps are terrible if teams don’t also have someone good at widow.
Her hitbox will be like current hanzo. How does that not favour her? She is hitscan with a 1 shot and a big hitbox now.
Some heroes did, most did not get any dmg buffs. Widow is lucky to keep her one shot with a big hitbox now. On most heroes she mainly gets to ignore the health increase where everyone else takes more shots.
Yea; she gets to ignore the passive on most heroes, since they are dead. They don’t need a heal nerf when they are waiting to spawn.
Like pretty much every hero, parts of these changes buff and nerf the hero at the same time. And without any actual gameplay it is way too early to tell what she will be like.
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Before to kill a 200 health target she had to charge to 63% or .63 seconds
Now to kill the same target with 250 health, she needs to charge to 82% or .82 seconds
That is a .19 second increase to charge time.
Now lets compare that soilder and Sym.
Soilder has a DPS of 171 so to kill a 200 health target it took 1.17 seconds.
Now to kill the same target with 250 health, it takes 1.46 seconds
Or a .29 second increase
Lets look at sym, before it took 2.1 seconds to kill a 200 health target, now to kill the same target with 250 health, it will take 3.2 seconds or a 1.1 second increase in TTK.
Widow having to spend a tiny bit more to charge is so minor compared to other TTK increases that its almost at the point of ignoring it.
Yet she will probably benifit the most from the regen passive then most other heroes.
She plays so far outside peoples ranges that it will trigger more often on her then other heroes.
Plus since she has less health it takes less time to heal her up to full compared to others.
Which has been asked for for years, not just because of widow, but many heroes take advantage of open areas/long sight lines
Um what? She is the only 1 shot on primary getting a buff? No other 1 shot is getting a buff as she is the only one remaining
Widow is not gonna be weak at all, if anything I would argue she gonna be to one of the strongest heroes to comeout of this update
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Can still 1 shot. Rework or nerf harder.
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Widow is going to be scary, it’s going to be even easier to one shot than ever before, you will need to be closer but 40m is still far out of most hero’s effective range
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Widow is only good/played (especially in highrank) on her Maps with long Sightlines. Her Range got deceased and Junkertown is far worse for her now. So hear main argument (longrange Oneshot) got nerfed. I thinks she will be weaker and played less across the board. Only the Mid/lowranks can maybe play her better more because of the bullet size increase but as everyone gets it, its a net neutral.
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I mean the tank role is the one getting damage buffs, most of them are keeping their TTK. either in their primary fires getting more damage, spread weapons becoming more deadly, or their abilities getting the damage buff instead.
good, less bottomfeeders hopefully
Are you trolling?
Widow is now the only hero in the game with a one-shot that doesn’t require Mercy. And even a lot of ones that DO require mercy no longer work.
Added, her one shot is now easier to land.
The entire patch was about making it so that breakpoints were higher, and Widow is LITERALLY the only hero in the game who seems entirely unaffected by the higher breakpoints.
Most people are predicting a hard widow meta.
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What do you mean? Easier to hit shots with…
I haven’t played yet, but I think Widow should be much stronger than before. Mainly for passive heal and easier to land headshot. She is the only hero that can oneshot 250hp, and dmg boosted Ashe no longer can one shot Widow anymore, only Hanzo can oneshot Widow. So pretty much all other heros has longer ttk, while for Widow, its pretty much unchanged, except her one shot is more reliable than before. Widow often snipe from hard to heal spot on the high ground, and previously she often need to give up position to get healed, and waste the long cd hook to get back to high ground. With passive heal, she can just dock behind cover for a few seconds to get her HP back.
God forbid we actually get to all play the game properly instead of playing wall camp simulator.
I’ll be so glad if snipers just gtfo and let us get on with it. Go play Turkey Shoot Alley on mobile or something.
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