Tanks are uncontestable.
the tank role is genuinely so unfun to play into[and as]. the entire role is just bloated designs you CANT outplay. winston is literally free elims. queen never dies. rein is omega unfair to play into. doesn’t need to aim. doesn’t need to think. just swing away and your overinflated kit will play for you. roadhog keeps hitting his vape and getting away unpunished. etc etc… it sucks. you cant make plays on the tank role at all. flanking or poking squishies is the only thing you can do.
widow is everywhere.
what a surprise they dumpstered the one hero that kept her in check and called it a day. the fact they haven’t addressed widow at all is so unhealthy for the game. she’s been a major issue since ow1 and yet hasn’t been reworked. oh what’s that new widow mythic after multiple other widow skins… yeah wonder why they wont nerf her into the ground.
Clash is still borderline unplayable.
a mode that requires this much copium based mechanics should not be in the game. oh yeah a team that’s getting dominated should get 4 to 5 fights for the last point. seems fair. a mode this influenced by brainless brawl and counterswapping should not be in the game.
Counterswapping.
i know its not fixable in 5v5 but does it need to be THIS dominant. you can go from spawnholding to getting spawnheld based on what the tank feels like playing. I’ve seen teams that look through spawn windows and swap before the match starts to win. on Gibraltar first if you’re on defense do not step anywhere in the enemy sightlines before the match starts, these losers will counterswap before the match even begins. at this point it should be a reportable offense since its an unsolvable abusable game mechanic that targets specific players.
junkenstein laboratory carries this season so hard. is anyone in regular queue even having fun?
For starters people who spout this type of bilge need to have their profile open to the public.
We can at least gather you are not Masters or higher considering your take on tanks, so we can treat this as complaining about lower level match-ups.
99% of the time you don’t get to experience the level of teamplay required to start pronouncing about balance.
Winston is free elims cos he and his team was bad.
JQ never dies because the enemy team was bad.
Rein is omega unfair because your team was bad.
Hog keeps getting away because your team was bad
Widow has had the same kit since forever - she was in the game before Sombra existed. Change your gameplay if you keep failing against obvious Widows.
The game was designed with counter-swapping in mind - stop pretending, like many others are, that it’s suddenly a problem.
Junkenstein’s Lab exacerbates all the problems of OW2 being based around 1 uber tank - there’s a reason why it’s the only mode where the tank role is the most popular.
for starters people with this type of bilge are elitists who think that just because they play at a higher level they can tell others what they consider fun. nowhere in this whole thread did i ever pull up a word about ranked. this is the casual qp experience. the game is actually so unfun that i don’t want to play ranked as any time put into this game is nothing but frustration and stress.
also btw my profile is open. I’m a quick play player and i don’t care what anyone thinks. i just like every other player deserve to have fun in ow.
if teamplay is required to outplay the bad balance then isn’t that proof enough something is wrong? isn’t 5v5 supposed to have more impact per player?
my bad instead of flanking the widow ill… well i guess ill die then. see i can flank and pressure and zone widows all day long. is it fun? hell no. id rather play point. id rather make actual plays. if my whole existence is to keep a widow in check that can oneshot me the game isn’t fun.
yes in 6v6 where counters weren’t as oppressive. this argument is genuinely so bad i laugh when people make it. don’t pretend its not an issue for 90% of players elitist.
yeah which I’ve stated before on the forums is the only bad part about junkensteins revenge. ironically 5v5 balance ruins the best mode we have had in a while. its still more fun then regular ow though.
on the basis of what? all i said is that the game is incredibly unfun to play right now. remains my opinion and therefore completely valid.
What is this, Charade? A bait post for my attention. Well you have it.
Thank you for playing Overwatch. You are the only reason I get to have any fun. The people who understand to not stand in the way of my hammer are the ones who eviscerate me.
Your idea of fun seems to be running around regardless of your team until a Widow spoils your sunlit frolicking.
I don’t play at a higher level - I don’t have the patience with the playerbase who complain about the wrong things and want to turn Overwatch into MainCharacterWatch.
so you admit its garbage. if i cant 1v1 a role in a competitive fps its bad balance.
not at all. I’m constantly in the backline bullying widows. flank is practically my existence. the problem is that widows playing with the team are uncontestable as a singular squishy. its not fun to see the widow get bailed out of everything while she proceeds to mow down my team. bad balance unfun character. get rid off her.
so why are you trying to sound like it?
you might be surprised but i actually know how to play ow. i know how to manipulate the game and win more. the part of ow i like though is playing a character in a unique way to have fun. making plays left and right. ow2 is the most forced ow has ever been. not playing with ur team. loss. trying to make a play? get one shot lol. the whole game is an absolute unfun mess off powercrept unfair abilities. besides the amount of negativity and flaming that happens in most matches.
you assume i fail. i never said i did. i actually always play to have fun. i have fun most matches. but that doesn’t make the game always fun. i cant play tank because ill be countered all game long. dps aint it since widowwatch isnt fun to play. so right now im on lucio tbagging every widow i destroy.
from a non tank non counterswapper perspective the tank role is not fun to play into and as.
but ow is all about one tricks. that the best part of any hero shooter. finding the hero you like most and mastering that hero. thats still the case for dps and support. only the tank role is consisntently worse if your a one trick.
i dont hate rein. i hate what rein has become. baiting shatters. pinning of the map. rien zarya. rein dva. actual frontline exchange is amazing. nowadays he’s just bloated and only run as oogabooga counter to zarya.
i dont like tryharding anymore. comes at the cost of fun.
how about ow vets? I’m pretty sure they also feel this way. also the game sense to know that if targeted by a tank you cannot fight back and just need to run or die? yeah thats not the ow where:
right?
this is the same man that said that double main tank was oppressive. the same man that lied about pve. the same man that forced 5v5 despite knowing it wasnt gonna work. the same man that forced his team to create an engine unable to handle 6v6. the same man that split the playerbase in two for no reason. don’t believe everything aaron keller says.
GOTY 2016 and a higher playercount despite being pay to play. yeah right.
i remember stopping mid match where 10 people just watched two reins duke it out. good times.
“its never boring around me”?
right like whats the point. my tank will still feed in and die. my dps will still miss more then they hit. my supports will still find a way to feed even though theyre still in spawn. no more i cant take trying to mend that gap. ill just play to have fun instead
yeah absolutely but ive realized something since then.
the more you learn about how ow works the more unfun the game becomes. the more you realize how oppressive and poorly managed ow is. the more you realize you cant improve yourself to outplay all the crap in this game. that’s why i play to have fun. i don’t care about learning how to properly take angles and which character is meta anymore. its all for naught if i hate myself playing it. I’m just gonna practice some lucio rollouts feed into their backline to kill widows and enjoy myself. i genuinly could not care less anymore. if matches are so heavily decided by the elements i cant control ill focus on what i can control. if people flame me for it. don’t care. if my team has a garbage game because I’m not on bap feeding their bad playstyle, not my responsibility play better nerd. because if im gonna tryhard id do so in comp and because i know how oppressive this game is i wont play comp. i know how dead teamplay is since no one is in vc anymore. the top of ow2 is worth trying to obtain.
opinion statement. coming from a dva main i can say tank is garbage in ow2 imo
Check last season tank leaderboard I’m Top500 check quick before my account gets deleted I’ve put in a data deletion request should be under the same name.
Or maybe their supports are really good and Suzu all his teams anti’s etc
Hero played in OWL and High tier play since forever too lol, Tracers been the same since forever but we gonna act like tracer isn’t the best dps in the game too?
Drop ur ego
Ur not in OWCS and even if you was you’d make less than a McDonalds Manger this games competitive scene is dead.
I am an OW vet. Been playing since release, and been a GM on every role for years. I feel the same way you do. It’s all about meaningful interaction, which was reduced in 5v5, especially after S9.
People only remember the bad parts about OW1. However, the entirety of OW2 has been bad in some way or other. The game was worse, but at least it was more fun at the very beginning when you could meaningfully interact with tanks. Tanks didn’t like that though, and so they turned them into raidbosses at the cost of the experience of the other roles — and they still complain.
a little bit of bait posting is never bad. but i counter that with me on lucio just walking the enemy rein around like a dog.
