Hi, I recently purchased a RTX 3080
and was disappointed by the average
FPS I was getting in game.
The reason for the purchase was to get constant 400fps in game or at least constant 300+ for my high refresh rate monitor.
I anticipated that it would be super easy to get these numbers with my system but was not able to achieve those numbers.
System info:
X570 ASUS TUF Gaming Motherboard
Ryzen 3800x Overclocked to 4.45Ghz (stable)
MSI VENTUS 3X GeForce RTX 3080
16GB of Samsung B die ram 3800Mhz
Corsair CX750M Power supply
ASUS TUF 1080p 280hz monitor
I get a constant 400 max fps in the training room but in an actual game I get around 200-300 on average even with low settings.
It sometimes dip down to 140-180 fps.
And the gpu usage sits around only 30-35%.
The average fps count is very similar even in Ultra settings as well but the gpu usage jumps to about 55-60% range.
When doing a synthetic gpu benchmark I reach 100% GPU load easily.
Is this just the game lacking optimization for the new RTX 3000 series? or the nvidia driver not optimized for overwatch well enough?
I’m pretty sure nvidia will newly optimize overwatch again when overwatch 2 hits the market but I am looking for a fix before that.
Things I have tried that did not work:
Optimizing 3d settings in Nvidia control panel to Maximum performance.
Setting Windows power management to Maximum performance.
Disabling / Enabling G sync
Nvidia reflex on / off
Nvidia V sync off / fast
Fresh installing Windows 10
DDU nvidia driver and reinstalling it in safe mode.
Overclocking gpu / stock
On a side note,
During full load, stressing both cpu and gpu at the same time, the max power draw is about 500-550w range. So it is not a insufficient power issue.
Any thoughts or input would be helpful thank you for reading and happy holidays.
That gpu will never reach 100% playing overwatch and if you are playing the lowest settings it wont break a sweat, the game is not demanding enough, its not testing it enough.
I get the exact same as you in training room and the same in games with a 1660 super but Im locked to 236 for gsync.
I am using an i5 10400 which performs slightly better than the 3800x in overwatch but your gpu is way more powerful so would in theory make up for the lost fps from your cpu. I think you may be at the limit of fps output on overwatch with the current gpus and cpus without further optimisation from blizzard.
Have you seen anyone getting constant 400fps in the game before or are your looking at benchmarks?
I’m really sorry to say this, but after looking at benchmarks for your CPU, it seems that it’s not able to push more than about 300 FPS mid - fight in Overwatch 1080p at Low Settings. (Additionally, the highest consumer monitor refresh rate available right now are extremely expensive 360Hz panels… Do you even have one of these in the first place in order to even see all these extra, albeit still pointless IMO, frames?)
The explanation for thus is simple: the lowest the resolution, the more CPU - bound the game becomes as your GPU simply doesn’t have that much to do, as the GPU will always render as many frames as the CPU is able to output (there us also no such thing as the GPU “filling in” the extra frames that the CPU couldn’t output). That’s exactly why it’s worth to invest in a CPU with very high single core performance (which is what has always mattered more in games, due to their general inability to take advantage of more than a few cores/threads) if you’re looking for the highest frame rates for Competitive gaming at 1080p.
At the moment and since you don’t have at least a 1440p monitor, the RTX 3080 seems like wasted money to me… I would return the card if I were you and have the ability to do so and buy the new 5600X (you can get good money for the 3700X if you sell it), which is compatible with your MOBO, can easily push 400FPS for OW and is a good - value product as long as you find it around its MSRP price.
Alternatively, you could sell your current monitor and buy a 1440p 144Hz/240Hz (if you have the financial capability) monitor in order to normalize the ““bottleneck”” as much as possible…
There isn’t any technical problem with your hardware at least, so you don’t have to worry about that.
The gpu is not the culprit, it’s the cpu. You should notice that changing graphics settings basically does nothing to change your fps. If you however switched from a 3800x to a 5000 series cpu then it would hardlock at 400fps on all bar the most cpu intensive modes.
I have seen benchmarks on YT hitting constant 300+ with a ryzen 3800xt + rtx 3080 which is slightly faster than my 3800x but that is about the most similar system benchmark that I can find online.
Same issue here, 5800x with 3080 still has low cpu usage at around 30%. Using PBO but that should not be the problem, I remember the first time I play OW with my 3080 it never dropped below 350 fps. Don’t know what’s going on here.
I mentioned that I have a 280hz monitor and the fps dips below that constantly. That was the whole point of the thread. Money and “worth” is not the concern here. When the fps dip happens with my 280hz monitor it is very noticeable for me and it affects my game play. (Mentioned that I hit 140 -180 fps during game)
Yep you are right according to the benchmarks I also found your CPU should be able to output roughly around 300 FPS of performance even in heavy fight scenarios.
Now, what I would suggest is for you to set to Default all your Settings in the Nvidia Control Panel.
I guess tour drivers are already updated to their latest versions.
I also need more information on the exact model of your RAM, as I was able to pretty much eliminate sudden frame drops on my old PC by switching to double - channel memory. Make sure yours runs in double - channel as well and with XMP on of course.
Additionally, try turning off all Settings such as Nvidia Reflex, G-Sync (from the Nvidia Control Panel), make sure Game Mode is enabled in Windows Settings and Xbox Game Bar, along with Game Capture, etc. is turned off.
Are your inning any background programs while gaming? Do such frame drops also appear in other games as well?
Finally, I need more info on 1. Your temperatures and 2. Your CPU overclock and whether or not it’s actually helpful and beneficial.
A screenshot or overview of your BIOS would be great and I’m asking for this because 3700X/3800X don’t OC that well according to what I’ve seen thus far.
Finally and this is pretty technical and may as well not yield any results… What’s your FCLK frequency? Ideally you would want it to be exactly half of your RAM frequency (so 3800Mhz / 2 = 1900Mhz). Try to get yours there as well if it’s not already set like that automatically by your high - range X570 MOBO and see if it’s stable.
Now finally, try running Overwatch again with V-Sync Off and see if the problem is solved.
First off, thank you all for your valuable time and effort on contributing to this thread.
I will put it this way. When it comes to overclocking, I am a hardcore enthusiast.
I have configured my AMD cpu and BIOS to every possible scenario and ran benchmarks between to find the maximum gaming performance.
For detailed specs and configuration;
As I mentioned already, I am running my 3800x at 4.45ghz. (Which is a performance that only the top 20-10% of this chip owner can achieve (Silicone Lottery)). I am able to hit 4.5ghz but I keep it this way for cooler temps and better day to day use. And If I run userbenchmark, I am always the 100th percentile when it comes to cpu performance (Highest rank possible). My ram is a Samsung-B-die-A0-4000mhz ram downclocked to 3800mhz with tightened timings to cl15. And YES of course I am running the FCLK 1:1 1900=infinity clock : 3800mhz ram and DOCP on with modification to voltage and timings. Using ASUS LLC3 settings at Vcore 1.38v, memory at 1.43v. AIO Push pull setup with 240mm rad with arctic p12 fan at turbo speed and max load temp of 82 degrees. And my cinebench score with this 3800x is a constant 5300pts.
If you understood what I wrote above, you would know how insane these numbers are (And how much time I spent reaching this performance).
That is why it is super frustrating for me to see overwatch under performing.
Well I think the performance that I have in game, is the most I can get out of this chipset at this point…
First of all sorry for the late reply. Secondly, yes I get everything that you’re saying and I have to say that these numbers are extremely impressive.
The thing is that no, I don’t think that’s as much as you can get from tour great rig and we have the benchmarks to prove that.
Unfortunately though, I don’t think I can provide any more assistance. I know of overclocking sometimes affective gaming performance negatively, but never to such degree… I guess tour could try running Overwatch at stock CPU configuration at least, if you have the time to go through the hassle that is.
I hope you at least try the suggestions I made concerning Windows settings, etc. (Setting Power Mode to High Performance if you haven’t done do already may also help a bit)…
Maybe you could contact Blizzard support where they can assess your logs and/or another forum/subreddit in order to make sure that your RAM timings for example don’t create any latency problems, as I’m unfortunately not that knowledgeable in this specific subject.
I hope though that you fix your problem as soon as possible! Cheers.
Just want to note that Blizzard helps with crashing and connection issues, but enthusiast topics like maximizing FPS and overclocking are not something they support.
@OP: In this case, I recommend taking the last reply’s advice to start a discussion on a hardware forum or reddit sub if you’re looking to investigate further.
9700k@5.1ghz and also rtx 3080 with 2100 clock speed and memory 3600CL15.
CPU GPU around 50% usage. Fps fix 400 in training//arcade no matter how many players.
Drops to as low as 150 in competetive. Fight or not fight, GPU CPU still 50%… 1080p 1440p or 4k doesnt matter ,same fps
I experience the same problems on a RTX 3060 with a Ryzen 6 3600X, tried as much as AZUS did to fix the problems by changing windows/Nvidia settings. But without overclocking my hardware. Tested and benched all the hardware like AZuS did.
On some games GPU usage drops to 40%, and FPS dropping to 60. The CPU usage also drops when that happens (never goes over 50%). It happens on moments there is a lot going on in the game.
In some games changing the graphical settings from ultra to low and back to ultra bumps the GPU usage back up to 70-90% for a short while and fixes CPU drops too.
I get the idea that the 3000 series has some start-up difficulties. Whenever the stock gets back up more software creators can get their hands on the cards and create a solution.
Since this is a blizzard forums I can share the experience back in the day on World of Warcraft - Wrath of the Lich King expansion. I ran raids on 40 FPS got sick of it so I build a Intel Q6600 with a 280 GTX which was top notch at that time. And still ran the game on the same amount of frames. Later on I heard everyone in the guild was running on such FPS. When blizzard released Cataclysm the game engine had a massive performance upgrade and it ran smoothly 60FPS constantly.
I’m in the exact same boat as the guy who posted this… here are my specs:
11th gen i9 11900k
Rtx 3080
32 GB of ram @3200mhz
1000watt liquid cooled
Using a 360hz monitor @ 1080p
I get 360-400 in training range
As soon as I get into a game I go from 150-260 frames… I’ve tried then on all settings epic-low and it seems to be worst on low. My gpu and cpu usage is low af and I have no clue. You can find benchmarks on YouTube of people with my same specs maxing out at 1080p 400 frames easy.
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