I have been seeing a lot of people complain about RQ and how they miss the old way of playing. One the biggest things that pushed them away was a NO FLEX OPTION. Adding this would fix the problem that people who use to love to flex. It would be better than have 2-2-2 lock as it gets super boring. Make it where there are 1-2 flex slots on each team and that would solve the problem for the people who loves to flex.
Now the problem with queue times, 5+ minutes to find a game is fine but when you look at people like AimBotCalvin getting 50+ minutes for a queue today it isn’t fun and will push more people away until the match maker can find a fair match. Let people as high up play with people that are 500 Sr apart again as that solves the other problem.
Hopefully this gives insite of my problems with rq.
It has been proven since the game’s release that gamers cannot be trusted to flex responsibly. This is why 2-2-2 became a thing in the first place. Adding a flex role will only decrease cooperation when someone believe the flex player isn’t flexing into the correct role or hero.
Overwatch needs to cater to the casual gamer base. Gamers inherently want to kill sprites on screen and the DPS role seems to be the best outlet for that. This is why the OW community tends to have more DPS mains even though a good chunk of the hardcore player base tend to lean more tank/healer.
This would never work because everyone would queue up as flex. This is what that would look like.
1 locked in Tank(Main, hopefully. You never know)
2 locked in DPS
3 locked DPS
4 Locked in support(Main, hopefully. You never know)
5 Flex
6 Flex
What happens when the 2 flexes switch to DPS making the comp 4 DPS, one Tank, and one Heal. We’re facing the same issue that got us to 2-2-2 to begin with.
Select dps flex option unlocks
Select tank flex option unlocks
Kind of like that, it would allow certain teams to do certain comps and lock 1 spot to the certain role so the most they can do is 4-1-1, 1-4-1, etc…
I understand where you’re coming from 100%. The reason 2-2-2 is implemented is because gamers are not responsible enough to handle flexing properly and it causes dissatisfaction with the game as a whole.
Having high profile twitch streamers in a 50+ minute q is pretty disastrous for the games image imo. I would think this is something blizzard wants to fix right away.
Its still in beta, maybe they can tweak the matchmaker some more at the high levels to reduce the q.
enables goats yes and the dps fiesta if you have 2 flex spots. it have been sugested many times the last few days. when you have long queue for dps 2 flex will result in 1t1s4dps most of the times and we are back where we started before the RQ and the sup and tanks again are in a hopeless situation.
Some will say that: NO the flex players will not go dps all the time.
: my matches where almost 2-2-2 anyway
This is just a lie and thats why the dps queue is longer.
This is just a more missused word soon than Racism.
Some truly are flexers, and yes i say only some. And the rest are use the flex word as an excuse when what they realy mean is going dps.
Im only speaking for my own games but i have played thousands of them spread on several accounts from silver,gold and plat mid and high and thats the reality.
Few true flexers got affected by this RQ negativ and i feel for the few of them.
besides from the extremly small margine of true flexers out there its in reality all about DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS and they dont like the queue times
It would kind of defeat the whole purpose as 2/2/2 is implemented to give structure. Not only for the players but also for the devs as they now have something more solid to balance roles around.
Now what would happen if you introduced a flex role is that 99% of the games would end up being 1-3-2 instead of 2-2-2. Not that I would mind personally about which format there is.
If it instead was something you swapped by requesting to change role during game well they would obviously have to revert the MMR to just be one for all roles because otherwise people would just destroy their SR on an off-role in order to switch mid-game to their main and obliterate the opponents.
Assuming you fix that aspect of it all you would still have the bullying mentality in which people would demand swap like “swap or throw” and having people ping you with some swap role request would be even more annoying than just having it completly free and getting those lovely 5-6 DPS line-ups.
this is for me the most important aspect of what you are saying. Toxicity is still in the game and 2-2-2 wont remove it but i belive that it will decline when people get used to playing in a 2-2-2 environment better and get better at doing it because people will be better adapting inside theire own role to help the weak spot or link in the team.
It’s really not a fair assessment tbh. Back in the day Calvin would queue and mostly get to play dps because somehow he is a famous streamer people feel obligated to give away DPS slot from peer pressure. Even those this person might just as good as Calvin on Mccree but he/she isn’t a streamer that somehow make people think oh we should give the DPS to Calvin even himself doesn’t feel entitled his teammates will be. Now imagine all of those who used to give away slot no longer want to do that and utilize role queue for DPS, of course the average queue time for DPS is gotta be high. For those non-famous players they used to have to play like 10+ games before they get to a game where somehow DPS slot is available, and 50 min for them is probably shorter in that aspect.
you absolute have no valid information that it will push people away from the game. if someone love this game they probably will learn multiple roles, and that will help the queue times for others aswell since more people will queue for tank,sup on not only dps.
Aslong as the playerbase is gonna be so selfish it is today people just gotta stick with the wait-times. then we deserve it and there is nothing more to say. its up to us if we wanna change the queue times or not.
sorry dude