Hog is trash because he doesn’t tank any damage. Orisa’s shield breaks really easily now and opens up the whole team to damage without any defense matrix or Sig shield to protect them. He also a big ult battery.
Rein/dva or rein/zarya is vastly superior
Should roadhog have 40%dmg reduction while drinking, like orisa? I thought about this a few times
hog isnt bad but i do think his primary fire damage should be raised so he can get kills with his hook combo
He can, just gotta practice
Roadhog has always been a terrible tank hero. He feeds the enemy team and self-heals with his damage reduction ability. He’s a bruiser, a 600hp DPS hero that can reliably one-shot you. He’s needed a rework since the day they introduced him.
Blizzard is afraid of reworking anymore heroes, so I understand them not wanting to change him. And Orisa needed nerfs, but she needed nerfs to other aspects of her kit, not her shield which is disappointing.
Tbf Roadhog only really needs a passive that makes him give less Ult charge to the enemy
Practice is one thing, active 6v6 is another. There are so many factors that ruin Roadhog’s Combo in a teamfight. CC’d away. Hook victim healed. Hook Victim shielded. With all of that, it is super hard to get Hook Combo off. And Hook Combo is all Roadhog really has.
A little bit more damage could make this much more reliable, at least 165 on Primary Fire (currently 150) or pull hooked target closer to Roadhog (2 meters away instead of 3)
I mean, he is more than capable of killing just about any none tank characters outside of a few exceptions
And Hook is a really strong ability anyway
True, but it’s all he has. Along with 600 HP of Ult Charge to the enemy, he should at least be able to reliably get the Hook kill if he lands the Hook. With all the barriers and movement and CC, this is already hard enough.
Hog has been trash for a while now.
He needs his damage back and lose the moving while sipping. I cant stress it enough that its the only thing that will make him viable again.
Why would Hog need to be nerfed?
Hog should be a better counter to someone like Reaper but with 250HP most hooks of Reaper mean insta-death to Hog. This shouldn’t be the case as Reaper has no real good tank counters except maybe D.Va (ok, so my argument is actually to nerf reaper to 200HP rather than an argument to improve hog…oops).
Either give him a flat passive that reduces ult charge he gives, or give him the damage reduction fart cloud.
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Half the users on these forums:
he already has a 50% damage reduction while using breather lmao
also roadhog doesn’t suck, he just doesn’t have a synergetic main tank, so hes just a 3rd DPS that doesn’t provide the support that another off tank can give
There are 2 issues with Hog that I’ve noticed
Shoot Reaper first, hook, profit.
But Roadhog could use a more consistent shotgun spread. Sometimes all the pellets hit and other times they all seem to bounce off with no damage.
We can move him to DPS. He does no tanking. People pick him for kill power anyway
DVA is a far worse ult battery
Because when DVA is de-meched then it’s impossible to heal back that damage.
Remember for every point of damage dealt by Team A they get a point of ult charge, but that just allows Team B to heal 1 point of hp for one point of ult charge… unless de-meched.
Also the entire time baby dva is trying to farm ult to get her mech back she’s not earning ult for her mech!
This… As a Junkrat main, I love seeing a Hog on the other team.
Hog needs a passive that reduces all ult charge by maybe 25% when doing damage to him. That way he can get out and soak more damage and use breather to build his ult more often.
Maybe even another part added to breather where doing damage to him while he’s using it gives him a 5% bonus ult charge on top of what he’s already getting.
In short, people don’t want Hog using breather as it builds his ult quickly.
Also allow him to cancel his ult while it’s in progress.