I was listing counters. If you wanted hard counters then it’s Sombra, Bastion and Echo.
Then every hero in the game is a counter to Zen lol. And Widow is counter to every hero in the game. Becouse she can just shoot in the head and GG.
Hero that may be can do something against - it is not a counter.
Top picks in ranked.
Sombra and Echo is good. Don’t know what you’re on about.
Reminds me of when Doomfist forced me to retire from my old favorite hero: Zenyatta.
With that logic Hog should be a throw pick. Becouse Sigma shield and bubble can denies any value
You won’t truly know how good he is until you play support.
Just answer me this:
If Zarya bubble can denie any value from Doom. So Zarya is a hardcounter.
Why she cant do it with Hog? Hog is a bigger louder more predicteble target with no mobility at all. So 99% of time you know where he is or where he can be. You can track his hook CD ezpz.
And every hero in the game but few have escape or mobility or some blocks or some another way to avoid hook. For example WSAD buttons, superior range, HG positions, and LOS
And hook is a single target ability while Slam and uppercut are an AOE. So one bubble can save only one guy.
But Hog is OP and has no counters.
BTW Widow is a counter to every hero in the game exept some tanks. Becouse they cant catch her and she can just oneshot them in head. I just follow your logic. “You can freeze him so Mei is a counter”
Widow can just headshot Tracer so she is a hard counter to rfkn anybody exept Ball Winston and Dva. But in actual game she is kinda not
So may be it is not as simple as “he can do X so he is counter to Y” Yes Mcree can flashbang Tracer and oneshot her. But in reality Tracer has so many ways to avoid flashbang and so many things can happens that in actual game Mcree is a **** against Tracer"
Doomfist is not top DPS not becouse he has 36 counters but becouse why you need him? Tracer Widow or Soldier can kill whole enemy team while doom is doing his rollout stuff to kill one guy. And he can fail with it. Tracer or soldier and Widow can fail it too, but they can try it again instantly.
Doom main strength is - he can avoid any defense. But right now we are in “no defense meta” So why whould you try to rollout and jump from the another bugged roof if you can just pick a soldier and daka-daka enemy? Or blink forward and pew pew pew as Tracer.
You’re objectively wrong, if you think his rollouts are just sliding around rooftops and he has no bugs then you’re just wrong, simple as, any Doom player would tell you otherwise.
he’s got tons of mechanics and if you dont know this about Doom then idk what your doing, even people who hate doom know about his mechanics.
as far as the bugs go here
do your research.
Please tell me any super advanced Doomfist tech that doesn’t involve using map geometry. I will wait.
I just read the first 10 bugs in that list and none of them occur often enough to merit talking about. Some of them are even hero specific, and have nothing to do with Doomfist.
You gotta be kidding me if this is the stuff Doomfist players complain about…
well, i mean like genjideity is probably one of the most experienced, and best doomfist players in overwatch, and him and some others took a long time making the doc that shows every single bug possible, and with so much evidence as well. I mean like if you actually read the doc, im sure you’re perspective will change
You’ve played Doomfist for a couple of weeks, you admitted it yourself, the people who made this have been playing the game and these characters since they were a thing, me myself i’ve been playing Doomfist for 2 years and i notice alot of bugs frequently, sometimes its easy to miss them but when you’re playing the character constantly you notice these inconsistencies, considering you read 10 and there are over 50 i dont understand how you’d justify this being ok.
Sure Doom tech uses geometry but again its more than just sliding across roof tops, bounces, ledge diags, normal diags, balancing ect ect, non of these things are easy to learn and take time to make consistent, i’ve already explained this, then once you’ve got them consistent knowing when and where to use these things is a whole different ball game, you’ve got to know each map like the back of your hand, just standard rollouts are the very least of it they really are.
on top of this you know those physics that are so easy and do nothing but help Doom? well those same physics cause a ton of his bugs, Blizzard liked the unintended tech but never decided to iron out the bugs and make them consistent and actually intended, this means things like your uppercut and slam sliding accross things and sending you flying into the abyss, it happens constantly when you’re good with his mobility, you’ve got to be fast and things like this can happen all the time, on top of this bugs with his slam which is an ability you cant cancel are crucial, you dont understand how frequent it is to see the indicator and the slam not follow it and just slam right in front of you, which in alot of situations can get you killed, you cant play the character for 3 weeks and think you know everything, you’re denying half of his tech even exist and half of his bugs are issues.
Yes, I said I played Doomfist for a few weeks and haven’t noticed a single bug in that time. The majority of these bugs are not happening consistently enough to be normal bugs. Even though they can be replicated in a specific manner, they are irrelevant because they would have to be replicated in the exact same manner during a regular game.
So if we could talk about bugs that are relevant to the average Doomfist player I’ll be glad to have that conversation with you.
I wonder if you would engage anything as doom.
Well nah, you would probably just sit in your backline and throw the game
Pleae don’t talk when youre clueless ^^
Thats because you play on an elo where people are bad and dont really know how matchups work. Hope you get it by now, dont think id need to explain you what that tells about you
Then Sir, you are blind.
hey i can do that too. I played against widowmaker the past weeks and havent gotten headshotted once, she defo doesnt have any impact whatsoever.
God, this forums is just a great use for comedy purposes
i mean, yeah? this is a forum for discussion, if you enter a discussion with a scalding opinion your going to get replies. that’s just how it works
Nope, i think i understood you correct.
Youre absolutely clueless about doomfist and as i start reading more about your mental vomit that you spread all over this thread, i get the feeling that you dont even understand the game on a basic level.
At least try and understand the hero you talk about (:
Here’s a list of all these bugs-
“Nope”
The list also has videos and detailed instructions on how to recreate them, and evaluates them based on his impactful they actually are as well as lists how repeatable they are
“Lalalala”
You’re awe-inspiring.
Leave it up to a bunch of goofs to ignore common sense.
Next you’re going to tell me you’ve seen all 50 of those bugs in one game.
Is that your benchmark on how the hero suffers from these bugs or not ?
Talking about ignoring common sense, youre literally ignoring comments directed to you, does it get any more dense ?
Wonder how many brain cells do you have to gather to even get to the conclusion how 1 bug can make you lose a game, entirely out of your hand.
But i guess it doesnt matter when youre in gold because you run around like an AI anyway.
Please do not argue beyond your competencies
Yes, you’re definitely losing games to those 50 bugs. Please, tell me more of these stories.