I’m sorry, I don’t believe anymore in fair matchmaking. EVERY SINGLE start of the season (no, really) I get massive lose streaks and then spend the entire season climbing out of it.
If it was random and not always at the start maybe I wouldn’t make this post but this looks more and more dodgy with every season and I think the systems sometimes places you in unfavorable matches to keep you playing longer. And if there’s even a tiny bit of truth in it, it’s absolutely disgraceful on devs part.
Rant over.
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You’re quite right actually.
Welcome to Gaming in late 2018. And if you think that this is bad wait until one week after Season 13 starts up in November!
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Funny, I don’t seem to have any massive losing streaks at the beginning of a season? Are you saying the game is picking on you on purpose? Sounds a little crazy doesn’t it.
Maybe be a little more critical of your own game play, it’s quite evident you are doing something wrong I’m sorry to say.
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It’s quite evident that you’re criticizing my gameplay based on nothing. Funny that I can have 8 - 2 placements but once actual comp starts - the losing streak starts. I suggest you take your toxic comments somewhere else cause my gameplay was not the subject here. I’m talking about losing streaks at start, doesn’t mean I’m losing later on. People like you should be banned from forums.
I believe this is because in the first few weeks of comp, the people who want to rank up play, and they tryhard to grind their rank, most of the time in a duo or even trio. Therefore the first few weeks of each season are harder and more competitive. As the season goes on more people have either reached their rank goal or cbf to keep going so only to casual people play a heap and thus the games get either more toxic/crap or easier depending on what rank you are and how lucky you are.
To think that the game, a set of code that is the same for everyone, has picked you (and a few others) out to just bully and make life hard is seemingly quite naive and immature. I have nothing against you or your rank or your playstyle or whatever, but I believe what you are saying is quite silly and just false really…
Bully and make life harder? Which part of “to keep you playing longer” you didn’t understand? I don’t think it’s a far fetched theory. It’s not about people grinding harder the first few weeks. Example
Game 1: Supposedly “Silver” genji destroys the enemy team every push. (In 2 stack with a gold player.
Game 2: Pharah that was plat/diamond in all previous seasons all of a sudden is low Gold in a 2 stack with her Silver friend. On fire 100% of the time, another loss.
Game 3: Team mate leaves match 2min after it starts. Another loss. The list goes on.
If that’s all coincidence than I must be really really unlucky. Doesn’t matter now, I’m back to normal at the moment but it doesn’t change the fact that to me it’s really really dodgy. Look up the matchmaking patent that Activision invented and then you realize to what extent some companies can go to keep their playerbase and get more money.
Where am I being toxic pal? Because I said something you refuse to believe? You are saying the game is forcing losing streaks on you at start of seasons, I’m saying I don’t get any even with a good placement record (7-3).
Make your profile public then so we can view your stats and try and determine what is going on.
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Nice passive aggressive way of saying “you’re bad”. And now you’re saying you don’t get any losing streaks? LOL nice bs. Everyone has them once in a while at least.
Dude the game doesn’t have it out for you, im assuming by your previous comments that you’re somewhere around mid gold, and around there, there are a lot of smurfs and throwers as that is where most of the playerbase resides so there is the most of everything there.
I play in mid diamond for most of my games and I still get leavers and throwers and Top500 smurfs and its all the same. The game isn’t picking on you at the start of every season to make you play more, you don’t have to play more if you don’t want to. Its your decision to play more to rank up.
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I don’t think I’ve ever had more than six or seven wins during my placement matches. I’m jealous.
I don’t get any “at the start of a season”, which seems to be the point of your post. I have had some losing streaks from time to time (would be no more than 4 in a row though), but nothing that has felt forced. Everyone gets unlucky sometimes
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Hi, Bronze Tier Billy here from the Overwatch matchmaker team. We have seen your feedback and in future patches will rig the matches to where your loss streak happens towards the middle of the season so that it feels more natural. We want to make sure that your artificial experience is as realistic as possible. Thank you for your input.
I would have to say you and lots of other players feel this way, however keep in mind that the only thing that Blizzard has admitted to is that they start you out at a lower SR so you can climb to the SR you’re supposed to be at and feel like you accomplished something.
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I think they stopped that around season 10.
Big issue is massive mismatch in player quality across ELOs. Gold players that belong in bronze and bronze players belonging in silver plus. Doesn’t help that almost all new accounts place at gold to plat regardless of player skill.
Makes team mate and opposition quality utterly random between two adjacent games.
e.g. at 1700 enemy team attacks as a ruthlessly organised 6 stack and crushes point A Hanamura in 30 seconds. Vs. plat game where enemy team all trickles in like a bunch of bronze idiots.
Overwatch matchmaking is like a box of chocolates. One match you may get the orange creme. In the next you get the coffee creme (Bleurgh).
Also, if you haven’t heard the news about Google…
Google does stuff like this on purpose! Just like the devs here! The devs aren’t at all incompetent, they know what they are doing, just that their goal is different from those of this forum!
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I kinda feel the same well. I legit fell 120 SR because my efforts were not recognized even with Gold dmg and gold elims and even obj kills as a tank! This is in high diamond low master. I feel like I get the people on my team who have been gone for like 8 months I physically can’t do anymore to carry my team
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Bizarre.
My experience this season;
Place at ~2300
About the same finish as last. What a surprise.
Promptly climb to 2480 with an approx 70% win rate. Actually surprised.
Promptly drop like a stone back to 2300, after what could be described by the latter half of OP’s post.
Somewhat unsurprised. So typical.
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OP, so if you are given a loss streak at the start of every season, who gets the win streaks? You remember that every game you lose, another team wins, right?
So you move around a 200SR range, a.k.a. a small and completely normal fluctuation? I’ve literally said in the past 200SR is the where you just start being able to tell a difference in skill.
I’d like to clarify several things on this:
- They stopped doing it many seasons ago.
- It only dropped your SR, not your MMR. SR isn’t used for match making at all, so the games you were put in were identical.
- What happens is if your SR deviates from your MMR, it gets bonuses to “catch up”. This meant, even at a 50% win-rate, your SR climbed at the start of a season until it go to your MMR. This was their goal, to let everyone climb. Because obviously, normally, only a small percentage of players in the game can climb rank. For them to win and climb, others have to lose and drop.
It was literally just a way to make people feel good about their rank moving up, with no impact on matchmaking.
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The “rigging” you’re thinking of is called Match Making Rating, which is a handicapping system.
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So a few seasons ago, Blizzard admitted that they used to place people below their “true rank” so everyone would get that initial feel of climbing, and have stopped doing that in later seasons.
What you could be going through is Blizzard’s “overcompensation” for that mistake, where they accidentally place you too high and then you hit a loss streak as you try to normalize where you belong.