Rework Widowmaker

Widows should not receive nerf because some people are too good at it. just get better:)

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1 shots are fine and necessary as long as the support role is overtuned. Nerf supports and then maybe we can nerf 1 shots but they don’t need it really.

Masters +, the hero is ruining games at that mmr and needs a rework

Not unbalanced at all. And you basically described snipers.

You don’t want widow reworked, you just don’t want to die because someone has good aim. Now THAT doesn’t make sense.

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She was balanced around 2 tanks, she hasn’t been changed since then, with all tanks now having weaker shields she’s completely broken.

She is not broken if you don’t walk in a straight line out of cover.

Here’s the best tip anyone can give you: Widow can’t shoot through walls.
If you find it annoying to play always behind cover, that’s another part. Annoying is not broken.

Get back to me on that when you play against a widow higher than plat 3 on havana.

I’m Master 3, I play vs Widow every 2nd game.

Masters 3 and yet still has the horrendous take of “just hide lol” in an objective based game…

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You just don’t understand the game it seems.

Objectives exist and it’s everyone’s main goal as they give the victory, however you should not prioritize contesting the objective before you deal with the enemy team and any obstacles.

There’s multiple ways to play vs widow, some are very reliable some are less.
For example if you play dive, you don’t dive on the point. You dive on the widow or on the supports to deal with them and after you’ve killed them, you then dive the tank which will usually be on point or close to it.

You can’t walk on point and expect widow to miss shots in order for you to win a fight.

Idk why I even have to explain this lol, you can’t ignore enemies because they’re far away and expect everything to be ok.

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They protect the widows very well in high elos, you can’t do much work even if you buy a counter pick.

You can oneshot her easily, she’s 175 hp ffs. Even if you don’t oneshot, you should never engage to her alone if her team is close to her. Wait for her team to make a move, then go in on her.

Also, it’s a matter of skill and positioning too. Don’t expect to ALWAYS be able to 1v1 her, you can’t always win. But most of the times she’s a free kill if she misses her first shot on you.

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teamwork to counter teamwork

makes sense to me

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Nerf, manual reload removed, reload time increased, ammo size reduced. There fixed you now have a bigger opening to attack her.

I’ll speak for myself. Unfortunately, I haven’t had a good team so far. Maybe I’m bad, I don’t know. But I still tell the team the problem and I’m one of the first to take the step. But if there are those who have a good team, of course, teamwork against the team will remove the event like a nail removes a nail.

get better at not being shot by a hitscan? hows that work then?

Alec Dawson said she isn’t gonna get reworked but they are looking to add more cover to maps. Imo It would be easier to just remove her but i guess she’s too much of an asset to the game so they’ll do the harder thing which is change all the maps instead :clown_face:

she doesnt belong in 5v5, even a bad widow has to be respected because she literally controls whatever l.o.s shes looking at. when 1 character in a match makes 5 other people have to play a certain style (dive etc) is just plain dumb, hitscan is the laziest mechanic for a fps to have, make bullet travel time a factor or smth so its not just “i click head goodbye”.

That’s great until you realise maps like havana circuit junkertown numbani second hollywood second etc exist. If every map was designed like lijang garden then your would have a good point, but that’s just not the case.

And just like that, all of a sudden the players are united in that a dps hero in a highly skilled player’s hands should still never be able to carry a match.

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