What I love about Mercy is she fits in the role of Versatile healer, she can either be a main healer or an off healer which is great. I dont think she needs anymore buffs right now let alone a rework. If she needs it later down the road once we see the meta shifting which thankfully (im seeing every character played in my Comp matches) then she’ll get one ![:slight_smile:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
First off, Mercy was horrible in high ranks pro play, she had a 5% pickrates in pro tournaments which is pretty bad considering there were only 3 other possible healers to choose from.
Secondly, yes, Mass Rez being unfun to play against was a big factor in the rework, as Jeff said, however he also listed other reasons that people choose to ignore.
Such as how they disliked how her ult promoted a MAIN HEALER to STOP HEALING and leave the teamfight to go hide, LET HER TEAM DIE, and then rez them. They didn’t like how that was the gameplay her ult promoted, so they changed it. It being unfun/unfair to play against wasn’t the only reason. Her ult promoted strange gameplay, which I agree 100% with as someone who played her for hundreds of hours in that state.
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Well, you kind of are overstating it. Not only was she popular, of course, but she was one of a very limited group of supports to choose from. There were only three healers originally, and then 4 when Ana came. And Mercy was the only one who was a pretty blonde angel girl, could fly, and didn’t have to aim. She was also the only real “main healer” until Ana came. Of course she’s gonna be wildly popular. She was the genji of healers, and still is.
Now we also have Moira, Brig, and soon to be Baptiste. It’s only natural that her pickrates will not be the same as before, yet she still is one of the MOST overall picked heroes in the game according to overbuff, which is saying something considering she’s been “off meta” for a while, has more direct competition, and yet STILL is extremely popular.
I’m not over stating it…
Her is a chart from the Height of Dive when she was not Meta. Before the rework.
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It looked like this all the time before the rework, she was a MASSIVE outlier.
Her win rate was bad, but, she was loved. And you can go back as far as you like, and all the charts were like this.
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This is a weird statement, what are you attempting to say?
Yeah, and again, she is still the sixth most picked hero overall on Overbuff, even though she has had Brig, Moira, and Baptiste added which directly pull pickrate from her as they compete for spots with her in a team comp. Yet she is STILL being picked a ton.
Also, I personally am fine if a certain portion of the Mercy 1.0 playerbase have quit, most were whining and entitled anyways 
So many negative stereotypes have developed around Mercy players because of the way they acted in game and on the forums/Youtube (cough Aria Rose cough). Good riddance if you ask me.
So you have a beef with the playerbase? and are happy they wrecked a hero over this?
They took a hero with a pretty bad win rate, and then they changed them, and their win rate improved but, her player base left them in droves.
I mean, mass rez had to go… but they didn’t have to ruin the hero at the same time.
You just sound petty towards the people who liked the play style.
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It isn’t a weird statement. Jeff has said the same thing multiple times in forum posts and Dev Updates. Genji and Mercy are the two most popular heroes in the entire game, or they were for much of the game’s lifespan at least. They are also the most consistently being picked a lot more than other heroes.
It isn’t surprising, both have very unique and cool aesthetics which appeal to players. He’s a cyborg ninja warrior and she’s a pretty angel healer. They are both super mobile, fun, fluid and appealing to players to pick up.
They’re the two cool heroes everyone knows about, even if people don’t even really play OW I bet you they will know who Genji and Mercy are. They have tons of fanart, giant passionate playerbases, and tons of stereotypes surrounding them as well LOL.
And now she isn’t. Obviously the fun part is gone. She has everything else, but no one is playing her NEARLY as much.
They screwed up what they had going there, and while you don’t like her playbase, that is a sign they screwed up badly.
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It wasn’t a weird statement as in it didn’t make sense, I just have not seen it in use is all.
Are you insinuating that the two are issues in balance since they have high pickrates, or just that they are picked because of their aesthetic and story, while having overall fun gameplay?
I get the feeling you’re leaning towards option 2, but I just want to make sure to avoid the potential of misunderstanding. As I’m sure you’ve seen how a simple misunderstanding can cause an entirely unprecedented result.
Nope, I just have issues with how certain entitled Mercy players garnered negative stereotypes which affect ME as a Mercy player too. I didn’t ask to be known as an entilted, whiny Mercy main who wants Mass Rez back because they can’t adapt or get good. Yet people in game and on the forums shove that onto me as soon as they see my playtime on the hero. 
I don’t think they wrecked her at all. I love her 100% more in her current state than when she had Mass Rez. I hope Valkyrie never leaves her kit, tbh, I enjoy it and find it much more rewarding and interesting that Mass Rez.
Yeah and the overall playerbase of the game has left a lot over the past year too. It’s not just a Mercy-related issue.
I am saying the second.
Also though, they are related in balance in that their Mains want them to be viable and meta, but the other parts of the playerbase usually have strong hatred for them and don’t like when they are strong xD So many “NERF NANOBLADE” and “DONT BUFF MERCY” threads pop up every day lol.
ok, so why did the changes make the Mercy players leave FAR FAR more than any other players?
You can’t have the Genji of healers, and then go the current pick rate (while having a good win rate) without screwing up hugely.
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I’m unsure why this thread was flagged but anyway, as much as I’d like to agree… it just won’t happen. The developers of the game have made it pretty clear that they aren’t interested in reworking or changing Mercy into a real potential hero. I’d suggest abandoning Mercy and try to play another hero instead, Moira can be fun. Even better, you could go damage dealer since that’s where main fun is and partly why Mercy was reworked (unfortunately, because she was ‘unfun to play against’).
The outcome for the rework is pretty sad, as her ‘average on-fire’ also nicely indicates. They have said on multiple occasions that she’s now fine but they continue to effectively nerf her.
Resurrect as a standard fixed cooldown ability I feel doesn’t fit into her kit and is sucking some potential power from other parts of her kit as well as halting the flow. The only fun aspects of Mercy are zipping between players and, if you get the chance without being falsely reported in-game, Battle Mercy in Valkyrie. Beyond that there’s very little in the way of ‘I am the hero’ moments, these days.
You’ll also probably find many on here, of those who don’t probably play or main Mercy, will also insist she’s fine in her dull and conflictive state. This is most likely due to fear of Mercy becoming overpowered again (which the rework introduced). You also don’t see the few popular streamers who originally complained about Mercy now defending her current state as incomplete.
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I think Mercy is fine.
I dunno about the mercy playerbase, but to me, including myself, it seems as if the Genji playerbase just wants their hero left alone as he is widely perceived as being a very well balanced hero, and they don’t want his balanced state ruined.
Mercy wise, I’ve seen a lot of the toxicity of some of her playerbase, but I don’t really want to put all eggs in one basket, as you yourself have demonstrated you aren’t part of the stereotype.
Glad this is only the forums, everywhere else the two are deemed as some of the most well balanced heroes in the game. The forums complain about everything practically on a day to day basis, so I wouldn’t really take much of it seriously as it’s just a place for venting, as I’m fairly sure you’re aware.
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Her MASSIVE change in pick rate shows you are the outlier there.
People abandoned her in droves.
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People got personally offended by how many nerfs she was receiving, even though they were pretty much all necessary. Everytime a nerf patch came out, Mercy mains felt personally attacked and like their hero would be dead (Which never happened until GOATS, ironically).
Some people wanted Mass Rez back and couldn’t get over the fact that the Devs said it’s not coming back.
People disliked being ‘not meta’ and perceived as ‘bad’ for the last several months due to GOATS being meta. Me included. This is what really killed off a lot of the playerbase, IMO, as so many high profile Mercy streamers stopped streaming during GOATS meta, but this wasn’t totally a Mercy specific issue either, many DPS players stopped playing as well.
But mainly, I think so many Mercy players quit because of the constant drama, controversy, and toxicity surrounding the hero, which was mostly the communities fault.
Most players are not part of the community. If all the forum players left tomorrow, no one would notice stats wise.
This is something MUCH bigger than the local community.
ok, I’m fine with being the outlier. I climbed to GM with Mercy last season and I always did pretty well on her. From my perspective she is fine and Mercy is still the 5th most played hero averaged across every rank on Overbuff… I don’t think she was “abandon” as you put it. That’s just my opinion though.
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