matchmakiing in ow1 before aaron changed thignw as way freaking better than this garbage that is now
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What we see now is a result of the format change. The game always snowballed. It is just more pronounced with single tanks and 2 missing players.
Donāt care about losing but I am picky about wasting my time. If Iām stuck in a match with a Lucio/Ana/Zen with 500 healing and 2000 damage, or a Widow with 2 kills after 4-5 minutes, and weāre getting steamrolled because of it Iām gonna scoot.
If I walk into a room and thereās two games of Monopoly set up, and one table has people playing the game proper and the other table has people eating the little hotels and sticking the thimble up their nose, I would at least have the decision of which table I would like to sit at. I donāt get that option in Overwatch QP or Comp and I donāt feel all too compelled to sit at the numpty table for 10 to 15 minutes out of fairness to those who clearly donāt respect my time either just so they can āpractice their Widowā sitting at 3 and 12.
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These are the posts that reveal exactly the problem.
People feel entitled to others best performance in quickplay. They donāt want to go to comp where things are objectively more serious.
But they still expect:
- People playing their best heroes
- People try their sweatiest
- No new people in their lobbies
- Super tight matchmaking despite no restrictions to who can group with who
- People swapping to different heroes, despite the fact that new accounts have to unlock them.
If you are in quickplay and expect any and all of the above points you are unreasonable and in the wrong mode.
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Habitual leavers know before queuing that all of the scenarios described above are possibilities in any given match
If one is going to leave depending on circumstances that can occur anytime, one shouldnt queue at all, as the leaver has no intention of honoring the social contract that they themselves ask for
Hopefully, the severity of leaver penalties will be greatly increased soon. I also love jimothys idea that leavers be placed in a backfill only queue until multiple backfills are completed
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I do not claim to be the master of anything
i had a moira outdamge me quite easily in mathces which was quite sad aas i was trying my best
Undetectable throwers cannot be detected by definition, therefore cannot be banned. There are many forms of throwing that are undetectable.
Games can and regularly do control human actions. Affecting the emotional state of players is one of the main things games do. Games are designed to make you have fun and, shockingly, you have fun when they succeed!
Rewarding good behaviour is one of the main ways games keep people playing. Thereās an entire branch of game design (UX and metagame design) dedicated to controlling human actions.
How to throw in an unbannable way:
Telling the undetectable lie that āiāve been watching Frogger play Lucio, so iām going to learn to play like him and dive the backline repeatedly and die. Oh no, i died, i need more practise! Sooooorry guysā.
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Throwing is subjective though. Everyone throws it around like the R word. Which is pretty much just point at someone, call them āXā and its hip, kewl and trendy.
Blame everyone but yourselves and it works out pretty ez.
Thing is. We dont know whats going on, on the other end of the pc. Lots of crazy stuff happens in this world.
Craziest thing that ever had happened to me, to take me from a World of Warcraft battleground was a knock at the dorm by the cops. looking to see if a person in the dorm hall was hiding in one of the rooms.
Crazy, and to things like a Simple cat pulled the cord, to the farmer down the road that drives through town illegally where height restrictions are clearly stated on BOTH sides of the street, and they take out all the phone lines over the road! (We get this about 4 times per year).
Kinda the stupid thing about leaver penalties is. I have the game going, and I get a phone call from someone that I have to take. Welp,. cant leave the match now, so Gotta shift half my focus from the GAME to the caller. Sucks for my team! Iāda just gave them a courtesy flush, left the match so they coulda had a better team mate. but yah know. Quickplay is a 'big deal" to some. LULZ.
not at all
any form of throwing can be detected
this is detectable
if iām on leaver penalty, sometimes i just soft throw is the game is a total stomp - just pick lucio and only speed boost, or reverse never use speed boost, just follow team and stay there with passive aoe healā¦do nothing, just look at your team, sky, maybe shoot like once in every 4 sec - could be seen as a new clueless player
or pick sombra and just 90% of the time hack healthpacks or turrets/ball and go back to stealth
A also see many zen/ana - mainly damage but no healing
player is playing? yeah. just doing his role poorly
as many say - you shouldnāt bee banned for playing poorly, right? 
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And how many of them went afk or started to throw?
Personally Iād rather have a toxic player leave my game than deliberately destroy it
yes the game becomes harder But if you start playing as a team and if you coordinate in your attacks and your ults and everyone does their job you can win itās not impossible itās called communication so i donāt see where is the problem ?
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Leaver penalties in a casual mode never made sense to me. Anyone leaving gets replaced quickly, if not instantaneously, and a lot of people donāt even notice anyone left until they hit tab a few minutes later and realize one of the dps is 2-0 in a game thatās been going on for 6 minutes.
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I have had much better games since the penalties were put in place. I would like them to stay, maybe make the penalty a little more harsh if anything
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For me. iād rather have the troubled player just leave.
its really not that big of a deal having people leave and rotate out. I got lots of matches today where people were cycling out of it and I wasnāt put off by it. its not like it really was such a dramatic disruption like people claim it to be.
Infact. i would say every match I played had a leaver in it. Was it that bad, to the point where I was upset. No. Only time I reported anyone for doing it was the person that left with the clock in the last 15 seconds on the other team. That wasnāt called for.
I think players are making too much of a deal out of leavers because its an easy problem to blame.
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Funnily enough there was a thread today complaining the someone got a backfill match.
Probably a troll since they immediately stated that they leave every backfill game they get.
These attitudes are one of the reasons for the penalties. People being unwilling to be part of the system that is in place to mitigate the effect of leavers.
And when people are unwilling to be part of the solution to a problem, we need solutions to minimize the need for the other solution.
Which in this case is leaver penalties, which makes backfills happen less.
Leaver penalties work.
Quickplay is not casual.
Game is sweaty, deal with it.
Who ever wants to relax, should not play ow2.
Accept reality.
Stop coping.
Edit: Sorry, this message was meant for all of you doomers and conspiracy theorists. Not just dassaries.
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.reddit / r/Overwatch/comments/65vpat quick_play_is_meant_for_practicing_heroes_right/
According to former Overwatch game director Jeff Kaplan, players who frequently leave competitive ranked matches should primarily play Quickplay instead, as leaving ranked games significantly impacts the experience for other players and Quickplay is designed to be more casual and forgiving when dealing with leavers due to its backfill system.
Which game director Kaplan Addressed back in July of 2016 for Ranked leavers.
Thereās your cope and the bag of mud to go with it, Straight from Father Kaplan himself. . Quickplay is training grounds. Stop using it as Comp mode if you donāt like leavers or players training in it. Uninstall and go find another game to play. Weāve been using this mode for years this way. How about go grieve in a corner. Its not your comp mode that you refuse to actually go play in.
Literally doesnt matter. Hes not the boss anymore, Keller and Neuss are. And according to Neuss, QP is not meant to be āāchill, relax and lobby shop all you wantāā.
Like i said, what Jeff Kaplan said doesnt matter, when it learly contradicts what current ow devs think.
It is not. Just because you claim it to be, doesnt make it reality.
Nah, I donāt see any sensible reason, why only comp players should be granted the priviledge of having no leavers in their lobby.
Nah, i think iāll keep playing this game, and take the leaver penalties. They greatly improved my qp experience.
Whoās we?