Revert or reset harder

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Because this half assed reset did nothing but force ranks that couldn’t play together before into the same games. I’m finding that unless you’re a high GM or T500, it’s nearly impossible to climb in Masters. Masters is currently a mix of Masters-T500. Get lucky and you’ll consistently get T500s on your team. That means you’ll be easily winning because they will CARRY you. Get unlucky, and you’ll consistently face T500s. Then you just lose over and over because there’s massive skill difference you literally won’t be able to do anything about.

My winrate has gone from 57% in GM4(Season 8) to 49% in M5. That type of fall should never have been possible. I’m checking the profiles in every single game. Almost every game I lose I’m facing GM1-T500 players. Almost every game I win I’m facing Masters or just have T500s on my own team. This isn’t fair for ANYONE. Everyone’s rank is artificially lowered and it’s impossible to climb back up until everyone ranked higher than you has.

In Diamond or below I’d assume it’d be the same. Everyone but high Diamonds will have a winrate based on luck. High Diamonds will always stomp unless the enemy team has more people at that rank. That’s been my experience on Tank, which I’m usually high Diamond on. My Dva has a 90% winrate, iirc. I’m good at Dva, but not THAT good. I shouldn’t be having a winrate like that on her. The only explanation is that I’m just facing players I shouldn’t be.

So anyways, getting to the point here, rank needs to be reverted back to the end of Season 8 or everyone needs to be FULLY reset to Bronze 5. This rainbow ranks bs needs to end.

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There was no reset to ranks. Just what’s shown to you. It’s more sugarcoating only now it lets you see how punishing losing is Vs tiny reward winning gives. (It was like this in ow1 btw)

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There was no reset to MMR. MMR was never used for matchmaking, visible ranks were. This means that players that ordinarily would not have been able to play together are able to now. That’s the whole problem. I have screenshots to prove that I’m facing T500s, and I can link my Overbuff profile to show my S8 rank. If you want literal proof I am happy to give it.

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I mean, this very well could be working as intended. I know for a fact in seasons 3 and 4 a LOT of low rank player were mega boosted by blizzard and it was done to retain faster queues in the less populated higher ranks. There are people who are honest about it and there are people who will lie about it because they want to believe they really belong in the high rank they got, idk which you are, but as someone with multiple accounts I can honestly say one of my accounts was boosted to masters in season 4 for doing nothing. My main account was stuck diamond. I made new account, placed and maintained GM.

OW2 ranked has been entirely fake and the new system is them trying to fix it. GM rank is not GM when half the people playing there got there because they woke up morning of season 4, did placements and hit GM when they were plat every day before that. I played in GM plenty last couple seasons and OW1 masters would literally spawn camp an OW2 GM team.

The ranked reset has everyone fighting for those high ranks again, so there’s going to be a lot of boosted players that fall.

But with that said, the ranked system is still classically bugged cause of this wonderful team 4, and there are certain things that hurt it’s integrity, “volatile” and the favored crap.

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It’s a side effect of ranks that aren’t supposed to play together being grouped.

Which sure. The first time I reached GM I fell back out of it because I honestly didn’t belong there. But I’ve consistently reached it again since Season 5. On top of that, I maintained a high winrate in GM last season. I wasn’t just not boosted, I was winning games a lot and climbing. I think it’s absolutely safe to say that I’m not boosted. And that’s before we get into the fact that all of my smurf accounts are in high Masters despite me actively throwing to get them ranked lower.

That’s the anti smurf system and not an accurate measure of skill. New accounts are completely exempt from competitive integrity because of how volatile their rank changes are.

Which would be fine, IF they hard reset everyone to Bronze 5. I’m fine with that. Resetting partially makes too many matchmaking issues that makes it impossible to rank up for different groups of people. Low-mid GMs such as myself get stomped by high GMs and T500s. Golds and low Plats get stomped by high Diamonds. Matches are unbalanced because it’s a complete dice roll who you’ll get on your team. Almost every win and loss is undeserved right now.

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Im mostly getting T500 players that deranked down to masters/low GM with me. Im not really vsing any real master players much. Maybe a time or two but the match maker isn’t THAT bad.

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You’re not hearing me. GM was. not. real. I was winning games and climbing in GM too, cause it was not actually a GM rank. Like I said, OW1 masters players would wipe the floor with OW2 GM players. When you boost 50% of metal rank players into high rank, high rank stops being high rank. You can easily maintain that rank as an average player because half the rank IS average players.

The ranked reset just squashed everyone together into two pools, one low one high. It has everyone fighting for those upper ranks again with more competitive matchmaking. Games WILL be harder, but if you can’t keep a positive win rate, other players are going to take GM rank over you.

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I’m hardstuck masters atm too it’s just all high GM players that are now in m1-m2 and i’m washed

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This is almost making me curious enough to actually log in and place an account just to see where it lands.

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MMR was/is the only thing used for match making.

Visible ranks just closely mirrored it in most cases, so if you were gold, most people in your lobby would be gold too.

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Honestly, it’s such a waste of time to reset ranks. It’s gonna be about 2-3 months before everyone ends up exactly where they were to begin with. Ive never agreed to rank resets, people have the delusion that they are gonna climb more when it does happen. Sure some will get lucky and climb higher due to being carried but they will drop right back where they started and then start to blame matchmaking and bad teammates.

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Interesting. I’m facing a total mix. Literally, I’ll face a Masters 5 one game and a #327 the next. It is completely random.

No, they wouldn’t. I’ve played this game for ~1,200 hours. I’ve climbed from Bronze to GM on both console and PC. Meaning that I know players that were Masters in OW1 and still are now. The majority of Masters players are like this.

Except for the fact that this didn’t happen. The only way to stay in high ranks after being boosted was to not play consistently. Everyone that did play consistently fell just like I did in S3. If you aren’t playing, you aren’t allowing bad players to stay there by beating you.

No, it’s not. Almost every GM has been consistently GM or high Masters since OW1. You’re just flat out wrong. All average players are stuck in metal ranks. This hasn’t changed once, not even with this patch.

It has a random mess of Masters, GMs, and T500s gambling on who has the most high skilled players in the lobby. The matchmaking isn’t just not competitive, it barely exists.

It’s impossible to keep a positive winrate when consistently playing with former high GMs and T500s as a low-mid GM. There’s a reason those matchups were not possible in S8.

Skill differences in GM are not like they are in other ranks. They are exponential. A GM1 can usually make a GM5 look trash in comparison. A T500 can easily destroy a GM3. If there’s a difference of more than maybe two divisions, it’s just as unfair as matching a Bronze and a Diamond together.

Exactly. But the thing is, a lot of them are still in low-mid Masters because they haven’t played enough to climb yet, so everyone in Masters is facing them. This pushes everyone down artificially.

Probably low Masters, seeing as how you were also a mid-GM. If I remember correctly, that is.

Ranks were quite literally said to determine matchmaking constraints. It says it in the game.

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Pretty much, yes. But right now, comp is a MESS unless you were at the top of high ranks or the top of metal ranks. Only Diamonds can win consistently in metal ranks, and only high GMs or above can win consistently in Masters.

And this is true too. Saw it all the time with Dead by Daylight. When it had ranks, at least lol

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Oh…Ew.

Depends on the account since I have quite a few. Could use anything from gm5-2 but there’s no way I’d use the highest when Junk is in this state. Forget that, I’m not enough of a masochist.

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That’s what I’m saying, man!

Yeah, so we’re basically the same. Comparing our mains though, you might actually place in Diamond. I had a decent winrate in my placements, but I was on Tracer. Junk isn’t anywhere near as viable so I doubt you’ll have my winrate.

You probably won’t have fun either. You’d be outmatched just as much as I am against T500s, so your games would be luck based.

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:nauseated_face:

I’ll report back later.

I’m prepared for the worst and expecting to still be shocked.

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That’s a good mindset to have for current comp

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Yeah because ranked was fake. It was QP with medals. My diamond account stayed diamond too. Then I made a new account, hit GM and maintained the same win rate I had in diamond. I’ve played since 2017 I know what a functioning comp system feels like. OW2 ranked was completely fake. Why do you think queue times have gone up this season across the board? It’s because they improved matchmaking to actually be competitive again.

What you’re experiencing is the shift from a fake ranked system to a real one and now you’re mad cause you’re realizing you’re not as good as you thought you were. Who even cares, just play the game and have fun. Your ego is the only thing a ranked medal can hurt.

Proof: imgur com/a/giNMqas

Gold support all through Overwatch 1. Season 1 and 2 of OW2 they did not even play enough to place. Season 3 they are gold 2.

Season 4, DIAMOND 5 WITH 17% 19% AND 21% WIN RATES. This person skipped over the entire Platinum rank for LOSING! Boosted 1.5 ranks for LOSING! Plenty of other youtbe videos showing the exact same stuff. I saw this in nearly every game in past seasons. Oh and ever wonder why early OW2 season data has been deleted from peoples profiles? lol now you know. Blizz just trying to cover up that they boosted half of metal rank players to retain fast queues in high rank.

Prove it. Oh wait you can’t cause blizz deleted all the data from profiles :rofl:

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That literally doesn’t even make sense, dude. If they were Masters then and are still Masters, then GM is still > Masters, regardless of when it was achieved.

For how long? Because I highly doubt you managed to get carried for a decent amount of time.

They haven’t. For me, they’ve actually gone down quite a bit.

Lol

I can destroy Masters players. I’ve been able to do this for quite some time now. I know exactly how good I am. You don’t get to ego when you only got to where you did because you abused a facet of the broken system to get there. The anti smurf was responsible for that, not your skill.

I got GM on my main account that had nothing artificially inflating the gain from wins. Then I switched platforms and did it all over again. You had to make a new account and abuse a system you knew was broken because you got hardstuck. We are not the same.

Provide proof that this was anywhere near common. One extreme case means nothing.

Oh, and also, you can’t say that winrate means nothing and then use it in an argument. Clearly it does mean something if you’re bringing it up. Therefore, my 57% winrate in GM means that I belonged there. Keep your logic consistent.

Ask them. This forum has a decent amount of Masters and GMs. Make a post.

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Not going to lie, this is a pretty hilarious post. It’s funny how much a reset that did not reset anything shook up the boosted players. :joy:

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Metal ranks like yourself got let off easy because there’s very little skill difference between ranks there.

You wouldn’t understand. You have to be skilled to have this problem<3

Keep complaining about Sombra though, and stay Gold, Ponyboy😁