Revert mass rez

[Starboy-11783]

So what if mass rez was put onto a casttime? Would people like this or no. What do you guys think? Just want to know some of your opinions :).

[Dasaries-11327]

Im all for mass rez to be pulled back into the game.

BUT. with greater restrictions…

I made a joke on here and it got lots of laughs. That we NEED mass rez back. Because when the team goes aimlessly running in and just dies all at the same time after running into the enemy team. It gives the team something to be LESS toxic about and provides relief to the healers in this game, whom are already overburdened.

Mass rez was VERY OP, they should have INSTEAD gave it a 15-25% returned health pool upon rez. With ONLY players in direct Line of site, that would be rez’d. The reason why the Pros didn’t like it (I dont speak for all). Was because at the end of the Payload race, the PL sat there and the other team got EVERY last player down, EXCEPT The Mercy player. They had to search for this hiding mercy player and then out of nowhere you heard “HEROES NEVER DIE!!” Right as that overtime bar was trickling down. Well now that the players are back up and running, the game was going yet again, while mercy built her ultimate up again. Which forced double or even triple overtimes.

Many of us on here, thought that is exactly what they would do. They would Reduce Mass rez LOS and it’s ability. but instead when we all turned on that patch that fateful morning 1 year ago to this very week. It was NOT well-received and the forums have been lit up since then.

I myself, wish they would just put the ability back on, so the Community can Heal itself and move on to other things.

[HealsGood-1715]

LOS + the beta cast time, replace invulnerability with a slight damage reduction, and maybe possibly give living allies in the range a small 50-100 hp burst heal

[Gonadas-1610]

Put Valk as one of her abilities so now she has more options to move around and try to survive to rez her team without the need of hiding

[Heavy-11335]

Nope. Multiple resurrects happening in this game disrupts the flow and naturally creates an atmosphere where Mercy’s life is way more valuable than anyone else’s by a margin that this game doesn’t want. The value of revivals is inherently different from that of kills, and several of them happening at once can never be healthy for this game.

Even with a cast time or any other type of restriction, the potential to disrupt the flow is still there, except now with added wonkiness that makes using it extremely uncomfortable for Mercy and her team. Resurrect was never an overpowered ultimate, it was just horribly unhealthy for what it created, and adding limitations to it would just leave Mercy with an ultimate that wouldn’t feel conventional to use while retaining all of its previous problems, if not enforcing them.

[Felhelen-1952]

This has been asked before and the general consensus was mercy mains liked it but everyone else didn’t.

Also reset the timer.

[anon63781830]

This has been suggested million times and the answer is NO.

[MERCY-22758]

How… innovative. xD I’m sorry but reading your thread, it sounded like you just came over this carzy new idea of reverting Mercy to mass rezz.
Getting to the point -> yeah, it’s the only way to transform Mercy into a hero again.

[CuppaJo-11973]

People like to say Mass-Ress was OP even though Mercy was never a must-pick or A-Tier before her rework…something just doesn’t add up…

[BattleMercy-1705]

It’d be alright as long as she is given some sort of new E ability elsewhere since she was F and D tier for most of her existence when she had mass Res. Titanium’s suggestion is pretty good :

@Titanium-1686

Valkyrie:

• Removed.

Resurrect:

• Removed as a basic ability and placed as Mercy’s ultimate ability.
• 15 meter range.
• Line of sight requirement. Does not apply to destructibles, payloads, or non-fundamental map obstacles that are too small to actually obscure a player. In other words, none of that BS where a player can move behind a lamp post to evade a nuclear explosion.
• 1 second cast time. Basic movement is unrestricted while casting, but all attacks and abilities are disabled for Mercy during this time.
• If Mercy is stunned or killed while casting, Resurrect does not activate and Mercy loses all ultimate charge.
• All living allies within range and LoS of Mercy once the cast time ends receive a burst heal of 150 HP. Mercy also receives this burst heal.
• All dead allies within range and LoS of Mercy once the cast time ends are revived at full health and receive 2.25 seconds of invulnerability (same as current Resurrect and Resurrect pre-rework).
• Mercy does not receive invulnerability upon Resurrect’s activation.
• Resurrect does not require dead allies to be activated.
• 1625 ultimate charge requirement (the same as Mercy 1.x’s Resurrect).

Most importantly, this takes Resurrect off one of Mercy’s basic abilities and places it into a position that matches its ultimate-like behavior. On top of this, various trade-offs were made to the ability to allow for the healing burst and the introduction of a second basic ability.

The healing burst, post-rez vulnerability, cast time, and LoS requirements all incentivise using Resurrect to revive 0-3 players rather than 4+ players. Attempting to use it on four or more players runs a greater risk a failed resurrect attempt due to the cast time. If Mercy manages to use Resurrect, there is a greater chance that she missed some allies due to the LoS requirement. If those two drawbacks do not drag her team down enough, there is also the fact that Mercy is vulnerable post-rez while her teammates are still reviving.

The healing burst and fire-at-will mechanics on Resurrect make the ability more flexible and open up some unique uses for it. For example, Mercy could use Resurrect to grant her team a burst of healing in the middle of the teamfight to keep their momentum going rather than waiting for an ally to rejoin the fight after being killed and revived.

New Basic Ability - Pacify:

• After a .5 second wind-up, Mercy launches a single hitscan attack from her left hand.
• The projectile’s hitbox size resembles that of Symmetra’s secondary fire.
• The projectile deals no damage upon impact with an enemy. Instead, it applies a debuff that reduces the base damage dealt by the target by 33%. 100 damage is reduced to 67 damage before other damage amplifiers/reductions are factored in.
• This debuff lasts for 4 seconds.
• The projectile does not persist once it hits an enemy. It is only able to affect one enemy for each use.
• The projectile is blocked by barriers, Defense Matrix, and Particle Barriers. It can be deflected by Genji’s Deflect ability.
• 10 second cooldown. The cooldown begins after the ability is cast.
• There is a .25 second wind-down time after Pacify is launched.
• During the wind-up and wind-down times, Mercy is not able to use her staff, her pistol, or Resurrect. She may use Guardian Angel, however.
• Does not affect non-player entities and constructs (turrets, Rip-Tire, Supercharger, etc).

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𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓜𝓮𝓻𝓬𝔂 𝓘𝓬𝓮 𝓒𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓶 𝓜𝓸𝓿𝓮𝓶𝓮𝓷𝓽

Spreading positivity and ice cream, one Mercy at a time.

[Crazyshark1-2319]

Nope. I’ll agree that Mercy could use a little help at the moment but I want it out for good.

No offense to any Revertcy’s here, but it feels like you keep trying to call an ex that’s not coming back despite how much you want them to.

[Djawida-2270]

mercy would be underpowered and they would complain for her to be buffed

[Kounosuke-11392]

I’ll point you towards titanium’s megathread.

Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy's Current State

Hello! You all know why I’m here by this point. This is my 5th thread on this topic, and as you can see, I’m not limited in thread title variations. Great news, though! I got bored of my previous text on top of the fact that I had lots of time to think while on vacation, so I’m writing this entire thing from scratch!

Resurrect

Let’s dive straight into this. Balance! Or… Lack Thereof: Resurrect is currently the reason Mercy is imbalanced. How so, you might ask, citing Mercy’s Resurrect stati…

[ACE-1462]

Mass res needs to stay mass dead, period…

[Kounosuke-11392]

Don’t be ignorant just because you personally didnt like it. Mass res was a troll pick until the invunerability patch.

[Cedartree-1104]

If we can go 30 minutes w/o one of these posts that would be insane

[Havik223-1562]

Dude everyone hates Rez outside of the rez user. Can it entirely and give her some better stuff in the rest of her kit. Mass rez is awful and the only reason anyone wants it is because it was in the game before. That’s the ONLY justification for wanting it back; otherwise it’s a terrible idea balance wise.

No. We do not need it back, as a tank/support player I never liked it either: this is not DPS whining. It was just not a fun or balanced function.

[Havik223-1562]

Comments like this for example. The only way to turn her back into a hero? Really? They released a hamster ball with guns and the game is better for it. There are a million things they could add to Mercy to make her better, they do not need to add back an ability that everyone hates.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

@Havik223-1562

everyone hates.

This is objectively false.

[Havik223-1562]

Dude it’s a hyperbole. Please do not split hairs about it.