Revert Genji please

yes its me, that same person that congratulated blizzard for the “buff”

what is this, there is no way they though that completely nerfing his ult charge to where it takes 3 fights to charge an ult and anas can consistently lap you in ult charge was a good change

this is with 40 percent accuracy in a game, the average is 30 and I was literally spending all my time trying to farm blades and getting easily overlapped by the rest of the team enough to not even get nano in the first place

and I don’t blame anyone tbh, if you nerf the most consistent part of a heroes kit and make a marginal change (that had no nerf with it pre genji buff) and expect a sub 1 percent hero to suddenly reach an average pickrate of a dps?

btw, they made this exact same buff back in april, where genji was actually averaging a higher pickrate then he is now, last april he had no deflect cancel, no spread, no deflect duration

he got a fire rate buff, and it did absolutely nothing

from .75 to .65

so riddle me this, why would they make almost the same change (not even a full change to .65)

and add a nerf to the ult charge, when he is at a lower pickrate then when they made that same buff with no nerfs in the first place?

I can hear it now, what about his base kit?

his base kit is honestly a whole different problem in itself

when flanking he lacks the burst to kill a target before the team turn arounds and kill him (because dash is really his only escape option, supports playing on high ground= no walls to actually climb, ur on high ground duh, supports playing near small cover like a trash can)

he doesn’t have the ability to force a duel out of a hero, if the hero is just playing in their team all he can do is poke with his measly shirukens

and as a “flanker” he has bad matchups against 4 out of the 7 supports

brig bap moira lucio

all of these heroes either make his life incredibly harder or he is just forced to lose value from their existence, and the heroes he can fight, it isn’t anywhere near as one sided as most other flankers

ana and genji is a 50/50

mercy and genji rarely ever fight

genji is probably the least effective flanker hero into zen (just play doom tracer echo if you want to pick off that character more effectively without losing value of your ult to transendence)

its the fact that he literally is the least effective hero in his role

you don’t go ah the supports are giving me trouble let me go genji, you go tracer, she does that better

do you need to finish and asassinate targets? Echo

you need some form of self sustain and burst that is good against other close range heroes? Doom

what you choose genji for is the blade, his nanoblade

its funny really, with a net 4 buffs in 1 year hes performing worst then hes ever been, I just feel the devs need to overhaul him, hes a completely outdated hero that seems completely lost in the current games state in every sense of the word

I am honestly going to just continue to play other heroes

fun fact, here is his pickrate today, when he got buffed in gm: .23

they didn’t even bother lol

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Genji’s kinda in a situation where Reaper was. But I’ll have to see how he peforms for the next week before I can jump to any conclusions

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play him its pretty sad, I would prefer genji pre change if this is what they honestly thought he needed

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LOL so we’re still claiming that Moira can easily counter Genji? ok.

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Except like, raise his win rate :slight_smile:

genji can’t kill moira if she just continually runs away

And Moira can’t kill Genji if he runs away, while having so much more mobility than her and can climb walls etc…

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moira doesn’t fade vertically, she fades into her team he can’t 1v6 and kill a moira inside her team

You want to bet :eye: :lips: :eye:

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why would a moira fade jump to high ground away from her team against a genji?

So what happens when Lucio/Mercy/Bap etc pretty much do all the same thing?

which is why I put them there, I decided not to put mercy because she doesn’t really fight back at all

but bap lucio moira not only can just completely avoid him they can also help other teammates the genji is just trying to kill with boop heals IF etc

for moira and lucio if they run away towards their team he can only chase them with dash, which is bad if you want to dash into the enemy team

bap can be chased by genji because he only hops upwards but immortality is really good against genji and bap is honestly pretty annoying to 1v1 in the first place

then kill other people and still trying to fight people you have an issue fighting?

Honestly I’ve played Genji some and I’ve never had an issue killing Moira you just have to keep close to her and jump around her keeping your distance is kinda a bad thing against her cause she’ll be harder to hit and then u can easily do ur combo to her if ur up close

They never expect genji to like come full in at them and do the combo and u always doing it after she use the orb ofc cause u got plenty oftime in that duration and don’t forget it is easy to bait a Moira fade

they all think “hahaha Genji easy kill” why? cause ur like 15ft away and if ur jumping around her head instead she will be like trying to target u all confused GKFDGKDFK ITS FUNNY

you can’t just full on walk in front of a Moira and expect to kill her you gotta come at her by surprise or ur gonna get suck down before u get close

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You do realize Moira and Brigitte’s kind of “Niche” is to be able to peel for their backline and defend themselves, right? It’s not like supports should fall over and die the moment they get dived. Plus, killing Moira isn’t as difficult as you think if you make her waste her cooldowns. If you engage her while she has orb AND fade, you’re probably going to have to run away, or end up dying. You make her expend those cooldowns (poking her, coordinating a dive to spook her to use CDs, etc.) or by watch weather or not she has used Fade or Orb, it’s easier to take her out. Especially when she’s missing health.

literally no one to kill, thats the thing

its pretty hard for a flanker to kill supports when half the role has ways to easily deal with him, that means half the games has some sort of support that limits flanking, your only option is to fight dps, usually mccree on the enemy team which is not good for genji, and mccree players next to the rein so its not great to go in and try to fight him there either

its not that 1v1ing moira is hard, its honestly just a skill check for bad genjis and you have 4 whole seconds, its that literally half the supports can just runaway from you it and makes it much harder to really

  1. distract them from healing

  2. actually flank and kill them

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True, I think Brigitte/Bap is the worst for it personally like they got stuns and immort that basically cancels lol

I think Moira nerfs and Genji still being bad the whole time is just proof that Moira wasn’t the issue in the situation though, otherwise Moira being bad would have had Genji being played a lot more.

honestly one thing actually, I always felt that if Brigitte/Bap didn’t exist that Genji would still be pretty okay cause Dive only truly got cancelled after Brig release

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He doesn’t need a revert. This was their way of setting him up for careful buffs in the future. Next buff will most likely be 29 damage and then the 15% ult charge will make sense (legit the only reason we begged for that was cause we were sick of being blade bots) now we need a better neutral like Echo have.

Ps: please change post title. You dont speak for all Genji mains and no matter how good or bad he is rn this Genji is far more engaging than blade bot Genji from pre patch.

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Moira never came close to counter Genji as much as Bap and Brig do. Bap can literally step on Genji with every part of his kit just like Brig.

this is one of those things where you have to wait and see
the reaper 1.5 damage nerf seemed extreme but he honestly was fine still
I think it might be the same thing for this but we will have to wait and see

this buff only benefit super agresive genji like necros

he liking the change

but necros said that if you playing genji like shadder2k which is calculated and defensive genji, then this probably a nerf