I’d prefer 60 hps, a cleanse, or some burst impact from her ult.
Rez doesn’t need to be an ult nor does it need to be an ability. Let us move on from this atrocity for a better Mercy
I’d prefer 60 hps, a cleanse, or some burst impact from her ult.
Rez doesn’t need to be an ult nor does it need to be an ability. Let us move on from this atrocity for a better Mercy
I think Mercy is the only character that gets her identity attacked on a daily basis.
Rez is her thing, and its not like its holding her back. They could just make her heal rod clense targets if they wanted to.
Also
No, when I ult and I’m healing everyone, you’d better use that as impact. Her ult is plenty impact as is.
While I do believe different people envision Mercy as different things, it’s disheartening to see people still tying her to just rezzing sigh what a chore
But it is…did you notice that she has to fly to a dead body…you know…probably not the safest place to be, where someone died…stun herself for about 2 seconds and retain a 30 second global cooldown? It’s most definitely tying her kit back.
If you don’t believe me, recall Nerfcy and her 12-13 nerfs in a row, I lost count
My claim wasn’t that she doesn’t have an impactful ult, just dull really.
Fly around having your kit do all the work itself, where the skill floor and ceiling are right next to eachother. Ig if you like it though then it’s your preference
Are you saying that Echo is held back because of her ult that prevent her from flying ?
No, she copy the ennemy, that’s one of the elments of her identity.
Overwatch has a hero who can, amoung toher things, resurrect people. That’s Mercy. Rezzing is part of her identity.
Oh that must be why I use it as a throwaway Q
What? What do you mean “probably not the safest place”?
Whenever mercy needs to rez on my team, she does. Have you every tried…giving her cover…while she rezzes…instead of just…letting her fly into danger and start rezzing?
Or…as mercy…have you tried…not rezzing when there’s a Reaper, Mcree, Roadhog, or what have you sitting on your target?
Saying rezzing is dangerous and therefor holding her character back is like saying "I’m bad a widowmaker, therefore widow needs buffs.
Some characters are kit heavy. Some characters are skill heavy. That’s just how it is in games like this, and it doesn’t mean Mercy is inherently flawed.
Also, one more thing:
People tie rezzing to mercy because that is her thing. All supports heal, but each bring something very unique to the table.
That would be like saying “I hate how people tie discord orbs to zenyatta” when that is his main thing; its intrinsically tied to him.
Are you every mercy who has ever played the game? Just because you use your ult in one way doesn’t mean each and every Mercy has to do the same thing.
Well I certainly hope they arent using it to play defensively
I can’t even argue with this. You just made up an experience and called me bad because of a poorly designed ability thanks for pointing out the problems though
That has nothing to do with literally anything. And kit complexity plays a big factor in skill, therefore you shouldn’t divide kit reliance from skill itself. (although, Overwatch’s characters do lack depth…)
You can’t keep forcing comparisons disregarding details and expecting it to provide value in any logical manner.
Adding burst healing to Mercy would seriously work against the greater balancing of the support roster though. This particular suggestion should just be forgotten about.
As for getting rid of res? Big nah, it’s in a good spot as is and isn’t even holding the character back from buffs in other areas. Mercy’s interaction with the rest of the cast is what holds her back from major buffs(which she also doesn’t need)
They can’t bump up damage boost much because that starts breaking damage thresholds in a bad way. They can’t buff her healing much because it’s so consistent that she would start out pacing other supports too much.
Her movement is top notch already, so they can’t buff that with a good reason. Her weapon is quite strong as it is all things considered and doesn’t even see use, so that’s pretty much off the table.
Her ultimate is just about the only thing they could reasonably buff I’d say. Maybe more healing than it does? Maybe more damage boost? Either of those could be too much, it would just hurt Orisa’s ultimate’s purpose if damage boost got buffed.
They could also extend the range of the additional beam connections? Increase guardian angel flight speed? Decrease resurrect duration? Those could work if Mercy still needs a buff later on down the road
Its called a “hypothetical” and you can definitely argue with it if you have an argument.
Oh, and I didn’t say that you were bad. I don’t know how you got that information.
Though I will say that its tough to argue with “cover your mercy while she rezzes” since that’s just common sense. Also
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Where’s the problem? Saying “don’t fly near three DPS for a rez” is an issue? You know Reinhardt, Sigma, and Orisa can physically put down shields to cover her while she rezzes, right? So covering her isn’t the issue.
Did you, like, find a secret anagram in my post that proves you right, or are you bowing out from the conversation because you don’t have a response?
A conversation about characters relying on their kit more has nothing to do with you saying
I mean, it does. You brought up having the kit do all the work, I mention that some characters are designed like that.
Forcing? I said Rez is to Mercy as Discord is to Zenyatta. This whole time you’ve been saying “that doesn’t make sense” to things that just objectively make sense. Why?
How does this work against the support roster when literally every other support except for one has a burst heal of some kind?
You’re right, I can argue, it’s just you have no point so me making a point would be…ironically…pointless.
You were and still are implying not only is that a basic skill but common sense now? Rip to all the people who don’t play this game competitively
I have responses, it’s just clear to me my continual argument against your irrelevant spew of “hypothetical” instances will never get anywhere.
Your mindset is “it’s not broken so don’t fix it” and I’m not here to say rez is this huge catastrophic mistake, I’m saying it’s far less than ideal and honestly should’ve been scrapped in her rework.
It doesn’t make sense
Because you keep taking a random ability from a random character and saying “they got this therefore mercy rez good”
The abilities have no similarities in usage or the problems they create, they share no resemblance or balance on the heroes respectively, I mean you could have at least said IF and Bap for a comparison, the only decent one on the roster.
But instead you picked Zen and discord? For what? That has to do with…nothing at all
I’m done. You like current Mercy you keep her and I’m always going to hope for the better version
Rez is a bad mechanic in an FPS with such small teams. The only thing more frustrating is a mechanic in an FPS that takes away all control over your character.
I’M LOOKING AT YOU MEI! GO TO THE CORNER AND THINK ABOUT YOUR MISBEGOTTEN EXISTENCE!
You just did it again. Clearly, in a conversation about what to do when playing mercy isn’t “irrelevant”, so I’m going to ask you again.
I only spewed one or two hypothetical, so calling that “endless” is truly sad and funny.
No, my mindset is that I haven’t heard one compelling argument for removing rez.
Saying “cover mercy” doesn’t make sense.
Saying “don’t rez near danger” doesn’t make senes.
I guess this is Overwatch in 2020, huh?
Absolutely untrue. I only compared Zen to Mercy because
A.) They’re both supports.
B.) They both have skills unique to them while sharing the ability to heal.
C.) I tried to explain why I identify mercy with Rez.
Your entire sentence there is objectively wrong, and anyone who can read it can tell besides you.
That wasn’t why I compared them. From the start I only said
You literally ask this here:
Which shows me you truly, truly do not understand how conversations work.
Oh I’d say you’re done now. If I was in your shoes, I’d want to be done right here, too
A HOT ability, 12 second CD, can be used on dead targets during ult. Keeps rez, but only during ult. Adjust valk numbers and duration to 12 seconds.
At this point, Rez is tied to Mercy, not just in a gameplay sense, but in a character sense as well. It’d be like removing Torbjorn’s turret from his kit It’s his whole thing! Lol
Although, I will say that Rez as an ability is very, very hard to balance. I would have preferred it as an ultimate (though with several tweaks, so that we don’t just get the old Mass Rez again)
While I honestly don’t like rez, I do agree it’s place was as an ultimate, not an E ability. A revert to mass rez is something I will never advocate for outside of arcade or customs but I definitely see your point.
erm, valorant has a character that can rez if im not wrong right?
So she’ll become the ultimate heal bot? No thx, I don’t call that fun.