Remove Widowmaker or give her hard nerfs (Serious)

Yet somehow we’re in a deathball meta

And you’re not gm. So my talking about you. Also commentary and analyst in OWL play on console too. You do t have to be the best to know the game. I’ve played the game for 3 years and have watched videos all over the place. I’ve seen all the metas and have seen many of the best players play this game. I’ve also lately seen one of the best solo q widows be forced to play reaper at time.

If this was in reference to Op lol

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GOATS is currently used as a cheese by uncoordinated teams.

People still play Widowmaker in high ranking games. And the Widows almost always win.

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Prove it.

The reason I say it, is because Widowmaker is not considered OP at GM usually.
Widowmaker has counters, one being AD-crouch-spam, which is usable by every single squishy.
Another being shields.

Why are you arguing the same point im making? Lmao

Its not the widow you need to be afraid of, its the type of player using her. She doesnt need what you think she needs.

Her winrate is below mercy, and her pick rate is half of Ana. Why is t Ana more broken?

This is incorrect. Widowmaker has long been considered broken by Grandmaster players due to games revolving entirely around the Widowmaker. This was of course put on pause by the GOATS meta, but now that this meta is no longer clogging up Grandmaster games, Widowmakers are running rampant again.

AD crouch spam does very little over extreme distances, which Widowmaker is very suited to. You are moving across a smaller portion of the Widowmaker’s screen, and she is still very likely to hit you.

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I watch a good amount of GM streams by a variety of players. I have never, as in never heard any of them say Widowmaker is OP. Frustrated by being sniped? Yes, often, only to realize the mistake they made when they see the replay (jumping, running in a straight line or simply being unaware of her happens often).

Streamers act certain ways to please their audience. Some of them actively criticise the balance of the game, some of them don’t.

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But it also takes much higher accuracy, because the hitboxes are smaller.
If the Wid only bodyshots, it is usually not enough, as at GM level she will usually not get another chance.

Also, how many maps offer that kind of range? It is really not many.

whatch aimbotzz video where is chipsa is crying that widow is dredful)

Overwatch has inaccurately large hitboxes.

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There is also no other hero who requires that much effort to master. If a widow becomes that good, you also need to put in at least an equivalent effort

Just because a hero is ‘high skill’ does not mean that they should be allowed to be overpowered. If they’re broken, they’re broken.

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You know they’re not going to remove her, so why even bother?

its called high skill- high reward
basically how it works

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The ones I watch criticize. They have all flamed Brig to hell.
I watch Kabaji, Dafran, ML7, GaleAdelade and sometimes Dibz.

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In Widowmaker’s current state, it’s more like

moderate skill > extreme reward

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I don’t think she needs outright removed. She really ought to have some aspects, though, that more closely reflect snipers in other games, where oodles of drawbacks balance out their power.

For Widow in particular, I’d increase the ammo cost per scoped shot by a significant margin (i.e. should cost 6 to 10 ammo per scoped shot, rather than 3–or start at 3 and scale up based on your charge). Also realistically, they should probably add some scope sway on her, with the ability to stabilize it. If they did both of those, I’d be willing to see buffs to Venom Mine and maybe better zoom options on her scope (i.e. 6x and 10x, rather than just a single zoom)