Never disliked brig before her new direction so that’s objectively false.
Then why are you trying to make a currently weak support weaker?
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but widowmaker isnt. and those french love baguettes…
What about removing a shield kills her more?
Taking away shield also means changing/taking away her stun at the very least. As it is now, the shield is paper thin and barely protects her. Shoot at it and it will go down very fast. She already has trouble getting in melee range with how thin her shield is, and she has to get in close range to be able to provide the most of her healing.
But Baguette is a sweet innocent girl and Widowmaker is a ruthless cold-blooded psychopath! O_O
We must do our part, and each of us, to keep Widowmaker the heck away from Baguette.
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Brigette is not a primary healer.
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she’s already useless as is, you want to remove her shield and make her completely a throw pick?
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we must not allow her to get into the breadbox
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It destroys her character design and the fantasy of playing her. She’s the paladin archetype.
In this case, it isn’t JUST about her power in the game, but about ruining the hero on the whole. I would still argue she doesn’t need that change anyway, but it would basically be like deleting her. It’s like saying Doomfist doesn’t need to punch things.
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I think diversity is fine.
I don’t think you are justified saying a primary healer shouldn’t have it
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Brigitte isn’t good right now. She doesn’t need nerfs to her survivability any more, now she needs buffs to her healing/effectiveness. Right now her problem is that she has a hard time triggering Inspire with all the barriers everywhere.
I think making barriers NOT block Inspire would be a good place to start. Mercy shouldn’t be the only one to be able to heal through barriers lol. It doesn’t even really make sense. “Inspire” is through the act of Brigitte inspiring her teammates through her actions, increasing morale (“healing”). You can still see her through barriers lmao.
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Yet you continously demand changes that would gut them, not just for brig but mercy too and who knows what other characters you are trying to gut.
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No one said bash has to be tied to her shield.
She can hockey check bash
So change that.
Like every other healer.
Then they failed in her rework since that was her design
No. I want her worked to not have it.
I didn’t rework brig. The devs did. I’m just saying they didn’t go hard enough.
And my opinion on mercy doesn’t have to line with yours. But I stand by that they would make her stronger
Here’s where I’m going to stop arguing with you, because I don’t think you understand how the hero played. Bash was part of it, but far from the most important use of her shield, or the most common.
Brigitte did a few things:
• Cover her approach or retreat: She could hold up the shield and it would break fast under any sort of concentrated fire, even from a single Hog or DPS, but it would buy her precious seconds to get into range or get under cover. Considering she has to be in melee range in order to trigger most of her healing, this was very important.
• Cover allies: The other thing Brig could do is cover an ally’s approach or retreat. Often the latter. Throw a Repair Pack at a beleaguered ally, get into place, cover their retreat with your shield as they get to safety. Sometimes I’d stand in front of a sniper to help them win the trade but it wasn’t necessary. Usually I was more in middle line, ready to provide cover to backline or a beleaguered front liner.
• Threaten disruption: Often you didn’t need to actually land a stun to get value. Just being able to threaten disrupting an enemy ult or attack if they get (very) close is enough to buy a little space. Of course, you get the terrible Reaper players who drop into the middle of your team to Death Blossom, get stunned out of it and instantly melted, and then blame Brigitte. The shield was very important for this, as well.
• Peel: Really a subset of “cover allies,” Brig was able to peel for her backliners or DPS (or sometimes her tanks!) who got into trouble. Some of this comes from the bonk. Some of it also comes from being able to just get in front of them and block for a second or three. It also meant a stun + bonk sometimes just to get an enemy Roadhog or Reaper out of your faces and maybe have a chance to survive.
With the nerfs that Brigitte received, she can’t do any of these things well anymore. You’re talking about taking her shield away, and that literally destroys her entire kit. She’d be killed before ever reaching any fight ever and never succeed at doing anything.
Brigitte was already either the least survivable support or in consistently in close second. The nerfs gutted her survivability by more than 60%. You’re talking about taking what little is left away. She’s already the squishiest support by far and in an absolute dumpster fire of a place. I’d rather see her removed than have these kinds of nerfs done to her, because all she’d be then is a sad reminder of a time when the devs weren’t totally clueless.
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Can you show me where it says they are reworking her to be a primary healer?
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And stuns and boops help hold. Not shields inherently.
See also symm
She can be diverse without a shield
That’s not what matters. Her kit balance is. And utility imo is too much for a primary healer.
Her whole defence is her mobility and you want to nerf that? How’s that making her stronger, oh wait give her the abilty to cancel an abilty (res) that’s on a 30sec cooldown and is now clunky as hell.
They’re not going to take away her shield. The idea behind her character is that she’s hard to kill.
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