HTFU and actually do something about this ability. Its not tuned for 5v5. REMOVE IT ALREADY
ok
what would be the replacement though, if it was removed zen would be useless.
I was adamantly in the nerf discord committee before they added the lockout after breaking LOS. He’s fine now. The only thing i’d look at is giving him a small cooldown for the boop on his kick.
You actually have opportunity to do things as a tank now that you don’t have a permanent discord orb on you.
It is time to give Zenyatta the bicycle kick. Each hit adds a boop multiplier that will send even tanks past what Lucio could manage before the CC reduction buff.
Yeah run back from the spawn… Because as soon as Discord goes on you its a dog pile.
Nothing. He still does very decent damage and heals and from a range too
And revert the DPS passive and Hitboxes as well… they were gross
you can remove it by going out of zenyattas line of sight for 2 seconds.
more seriously though, imo the game would be better without any dmg amps. But i dont know what you would give for mercy/zen in place of them.
Zen without discord would be pretty weak.
That’s kind of the idea, if a zen is on a team, he’s the priority target. You have the opportunity to kill him yourself now.
This is coming from one of the most vocal zen haters out there.
This is part of the reason people dont tank. It isnt fun to play spawn simulator. Zen makes it worse. Bring back a 2nd tank and ill agree discord has a place
I used to hate discord but now that I can cancel it for 7s by breaking LoS then do stuff in that time, like killing Zen, it’s nowhere near as bad as it was.
Mercy rez is way worse for the game, bringing back a full-health tank that took potentially minutes to kill (ok, except DVa who comes back as baby).
We disagree there. I find Zen much worse than Mercy
You can remove it by getting out of Zen’s line of sight for 1.5 seconds.
Yes but literally as soon as it goes on you your HP is gone. Because they dogpile you. What part dont you understand? It was an ability designed around 2 tanks. There arent 2 tanks anymore. Its time to go
If you’re somewhere you can get dog piled and instantly erased, you messed up before discord found you.
They have re-worked it since 5v5. Zen has to put himself at risk to keep his target in line of sight, because discord falls off very quickly otherwise. Swap to counter him if you’re having issues. He’s a slow floaty boy with a square-shaped hitbox.
Yeah because most tanks have more than 30yards of range and can get a Zen deep in the back through discord and 4 others spamming on them. Good joke
If Zen is 30 yards away, breaking LoS and dropping discord is gonna be simple af.
Is no one going to mention Zen is one of the least picked supports in the game right now, along with Weaver? Zen isnt in a good place at all at the moment
If his pick rate is low then hell i must be getting in every Zen main game. I see a Zen at least every 2 games.
Make so he can lauch people up, and pass the sky box, if zen managed to kick in one life people more than 20 times, now each of his kicks sends enemies to space.
Instead of removing it, I would change it to a new ability :
Now discord is called Ankou.
By fixing it’s formerly discord orb, Zenyatta put on you the Ankou.
You have 3 seconds to get rid of it or else you die.
Any player that have had Ankou on him 30 seconds before Zenyatta uses his ult (if you are in the area of effect of it), you die instantly even if it wasn’t on you right at the moment.
Seems a fair change instead of discord orb.
A good idea for next year’s april fools. Or a custom game.
Zenyatta golf where you need to get your hammond into a victory zone by kicking him.