None of this half-baked stuff. If mei is getting freeze remove, and Brigitte is getting stunned removed, then Flash bang, sleep dart and all the rest need to go too. Make everyone have to actually ‘aim’ to hit shots and kill and none of this favoritism.
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No double standards. I wanna see this game truly collapse once all CC gets removed. You 
's will be crying for mommy Blizzard to add back in all the CC and more.
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Pretty sure flashbang is getting removed
Sleep dart isnt but at least it gets nerfed
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Nah honestly half removing CC would be better than complete removing
But I personally think it should be post-release heroes, since they caused the problem of too much CC to begin with
Heroes like Hammond would dominate without any CC though which is why it’s a necessary evil
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The irony is he has CC himself
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Even without CC Wrecking Ball is still a large target to hit, now Tracer on the other hand…
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Currently, Mei still has freeze on her ultimate (and a slow on her primary fire) and Brigitte still has a boop. Maybe they’ll make shield bash boop too.
Some CC is good, variety, the issue is that they added in way too much since launch.
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McCree has been in the game since closed beta, and his stun is the worse of all of them, but they didn’t hesitate to remove meis Freeze or Brigs stun.
And the radius is the size of two roadhogs side by side it isn’t like it is a skill shot or anything like sleep dart.
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What’s your reasoning? Why all or none? Some CC is necessary.
You are actually correct because mobility will be King. People forget that all this hated CC evolved to combat hypermobility. Remove the CC, leave the mobility… it’s 2016 all over again… history repeats itself.
They indicated thus far it is not, but it maybe revised.
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They have only said they are considering removing flash bang.
I don’t like the double standard. Mei’s freeze and brigs bash put them in much more dangerous positions than McCrees flash bang or Anas sleep dart does, so they should be consistent and remove all the hard CC across the board.
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Overrall it will generally make some of the CC characters useless. Roadhog is completely useless without his hook, and cowboy won’t be able to 1v1 close up at all
What you’re saying is that you’d rather have hypermobile heroes be overpowered against teams with no CC instead of nerfing both them and their counters.
Incorrect, bad McCrees won’t be able to 1v1 up close. If I am expected to 1v1 someone as Zenyatta who has no CC, no self healing and only has raw damage and requires aim then everyone else should.
Considering how mccree was unplayable at the demo, I think the consideration of the removal is strong
I don’t want consideration, I want it and all other CC gone or all CC to stay as I said before. Make it all fair.
Isn’t flashbang being removed, though? And most of the others are gone?
Considering, not removed.
I feel like that’d be such an obvious double standard if they walked back on that. I’m pretty sure they will - that cowboy’s been a balance problem for a while. I’m hoping they rework him and get rid of it.