I dont know why they buff him he was already doing good but now he and dva are unkillable now he already had crazy sheild buff and its even harder to kill him with the buff too his barrier and armor
rein was one of the worst tanks he needed this
Um, no he wasn’t. He has always been one of the best performing tanks across all ranks.
I don’t understand what exactly makes Rein unkillable. He dies just fine and outside of his ultimate, he is kinda bad tank choice for most of the maps. Dva buffs and damage role passive nerf definitely made her way too strong instantly and she is so an unfun hero to play against on almost every map.
/laughs in Ramattra
He was incredibly team dependent. He was “doing good” in ranks where people would actively play around and hard pocket Reinhardt. He needed a buff, but I would have made it a charge and armor buff. Something to enable him to take damage better, and make a play that would rally his team to run in. Like charging and killing a squishy, or pinning the tank.
rein was only good in ow 1 since ow 2 he’s just been bad
Just in time for his new transformers skin!
now
God I wish that were true.
I am still in the camp that there was nothing wrong with his Shield health at 2000. He was not an issue for Double Shield. He was not an issue for anything at that breakpoint. As far as it is now, I block the same amount of damage as I did yesterday. The health of the Shield isn’t the issue.
Charge on the other hand. 300 damage should have never been altered in the first place. Though I would rather see this;
50 impact damage
200 damage during the Charge, draining as you Charge
50 more impact damage when you hit a wall.
This allows for Reinhardt to get the kill on 300 health or lower character, while also providing damage to players who get Lifegripped, or any other reason they may get removed from the pin. It also reduces the damage of shorter pins for more counterplay.
The last thing I want, is the original Earthshatter mechanic. I don’t care if people thought it was unfair, ____ them. I am sick and tired of watch Mercy fly next to the ground, Genji Double Jump, McCree Roll over an Earthshatter that should hit them regardless.
Finally
I don’t care how op reinhardt is if he doesn’t fly
It is fine. Only true alpha understand.
I’m not only because I’ve never been in a situation where I thought “Oh, if only I had MORE shield health!”. However, I will agree with you here:
True. For me, it really was the charge as he didn’t have an adequate ability to make a play. You’d charge for some piddly damage, get the pin, but no one would be incentivized to follow up most of the time. Then they invented a character with a charge that’s just better than Reinhardts!
Oh, you mean when it’d shatter people in the air, too? Personally, I’m just satisfied with the direct hit damage on Earth Shatter. I think that’s enough.
Um…ya, that was awesome. More over, that Earthshatter had fewer issues. It didn’t get blocked by rubble on the ground, or a doorway that touched your shoulder. I want that Earshatter back, and then they can tune it from there.
I hated this change, because it was like “well, we can’t fix the issues with Earthshatter and you will just have to learn where it doesn’t work right…but here is some damage for you.”
Not sure if you have noticed but Venture’s Ultimate is basically what Earthshatter should be, with 4 charges and no stun. Its almost identical to the coding of original Earthshatter in placement and effect with slight changes like the aforementioned lack of stun. Mauga’s charge is better in ways, but I still like the Rein Charge.
But that is factually wrong. He has been top 3 in gold and above, and only falls to #4 in Bronze and Silver, and highest winrate among tanks up to Master.
I mean… the “Rein is doing poorly” myth is strong
I’ve said it before, but Rein’s issue was never him being a bad tank. Its that he demands a level of skill and coordination that other, better tanks just don’t. That’s not particularly fair. I wanted the charge buff because I think a Rein’s team will be motivated to back him up once the see he’s got a good charge going, and with 300 damage, he could catch a squishy and kill them which would activate the “help our Rein!” part in player’s brains.
As far as him being played a lot in comp, it makes sense he’s better in a team focus environment, but that’s not the whole game.
Also
I’m embarrassed to say that you blew my mind with that tidbit. They’re ult is just Earthshatter but with no stun and verticality. Hey, maybe ES should do some kind of vertical damage or stun, then!
/laugh in Megatron-Ramattra
I don’t know why people have trouble understanding how desperately this game needs more Tank players.
I don’t know why people have trouble understanding that if people stop playing the other two roles just like tanks stopped playing the tank role, it’ll be the same issue all over again.
But I guess you’ll keep supporting dumb short-term solutions until the game is 1-1-1? What about team comps of 0-0-0? Because that’s how matches are going to look and it’s probably for the best at this point.