In every rank below masters.
Calling it now.
Well yeah.
The issue there is that Orisa and Sigma suck as SingleBarrier Tanks for the bottom 90% of the playerbase.
And Dive requires too much healer attention to get run as well.
It’s gonna be a very “vanilla” meta for most skill tiers. But tbh, that’s not such a bad thing when you have a ton of DPS mains grinding out Tank playtime, and balance patch devs going on holiday until after new years.
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Well, the issue now is that Rein is stupidly overpowered.
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To me, the issue is:
- DoubleBarrier should be vulnerable to Dive in Masters and above.
- Orisa and Sigma should be better at SingleBarrier for Plat and below.
- Tanks like D.va and Winston (Or Tanks in general) should have ways of getting their health back after a reasonable amount of time out of combat, without attention from healers.
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I see nothing wrong with that. I find it less poisonous compared to Orisa or Sigma.
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In what sense? Dive tanks aren’t supposed to rely on healing that’s the tank’s issue of playing bad in low ranks not the supports’. In high rank dive the tanks only rely on a Zen orb for healing.
Unless you’re referring to the supports not healing eachother.
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Are you GM? Because if you’re not, Rein Zarya is the meta now, and all this did is invalidate every possible alternative.
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You don’t need to be a GM to dislike things. I always disliked Orisa and Sigma.
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Yeah, well, I dislike Rein, so this is pretty much cancer to me.
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Yeah. Probably 16% when you account for ana and baptiste not getting heal nerfs.
Definitely ana will add to it.
Dunno …don’t care. Rein will always be favored. I’ll just lose because I won’t be playing him 
that sounds like a tank / other tank problem
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This doesn’t address his problem tho. All this will do is make him OP in low ranks where people don’t know how to counter him.
They should’ve nerfed the Orisa sigma combo (not necessarily the heroes, just mess with them so they’re good but they don’t combo to be OP), this could potentially lead to power creep of tanks (or not idk I might be talking out of my butt)
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That is understandable, you feel the same way how I feel about double shield.
Though why don’t you like Rein? Not saying he’s perfect but I would like to know what makes him problematic.
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in every rank below masters
and now pontentially above
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In the sense that Plat and below pickrate is dominated by Tanks that can regen their health, or in the case of Rein a 200hps barrier regen is a close-enough proxy.
D.va and Winston don’t have anything like that, unless they want to sit on healthpacks for ages.
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Here is the current solution I got in my head.
And of course, this is with a failsafe that if the healed player gives or receives 1 point of damage, then it entirely cancels the regen.
Because he is boring and horrible to play. When Rein is dominant in low ranks you have to play him to win, and people hate playing him so queue length goes crazy.
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I see, so you dislike playing Rein.
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Hopefully that is true. Reinhardt is great. Much better than double shield.
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Yeah. Rein is like Mercy, you either love playing them or you hate it. I hate playing Rein, especially because Rein is dominant so much in low rank that you’re forced to play him most of the time.
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Fair, I can’t stand playing Orisa. Rein is fun when charging but not so much fun when standing in one spot.