šŸŗ Reinhardt buffs when?

Just gonna go over what annoys me while trying to play rein these days:

  1. because of boop changes, my own attacks constantly knock enemies out of my range.
  2. Because of boop changes I get knocked around like a human volleyball with no counter play
  3. I have the largest hit box in the game and only 500 hp while damage boost are happening all over.
  4. My movement speed is so slow while using a shield 1 sym turret pretty much locks me in place, 2 actually locks me in place, 3 I’m trapped forever unless someone can free me cause they are out of range for me and i get 1 firestrike to free myself
  5. Charge still is buggy and knocks people out of the way more then it grabs them
  6. Charge is unable to be canceled so if I get booped i’m pretty much gonna be isolated or dead.
  7. My shield takes forever to recharge and it breaks in less then 5 seconds on average cause of all the high damage these days.
  8. Baptiste I.F. Drone pretty much makes everything I do useless and i cant even take it out before I get melted cause of huge hitbox.
  9. Every new hero coming out has vertical movement and can just hop on a ledge to avoid me if my own hammer doesnt save them first.
  10. I havent tested it thoroughly but it seems there no way to thaw myself from mei anymore.
  11. and most importantly I have no way to stop someone from walking past my shield and killing me and i cant drop it or my team and myself die.

Things I would like:

  1. Resistance to boops, it’s ridiculous how the guy in super heavy armor doesnt even has the most HP and is the easiest to knock around the map. And 2 sym turrets trapping you is kinda dumb on all levels.
  2. More HP or Armor i dont care which just put it to 600 plz.
  3. Reduced cooldown on firestrike, give me some option for ranged a bit more frequently.
  4. Fix the bug on charge so the first enemy you contact near the center actually grabs them and not knock them safely away from you.
  5. faster swing speed.
  6. Faster recharge on shield, it break way too fast these days and not having anything to do but be a meat shield afterwards sucks. By the time you can use a shield again it’s either less then 400 hp and will break almost instantly or your dead cause your hitbox. You can stop the cooldown by not letting it break but the recharge time is still painfully slow.
  7. Able to cancel charge
  8. some sort of knockback or stun I can use while shield is up like shield bash to prevent the overloading torb from just walking up and tanking my hammer swings with armor and killing me while he pretty much has full health.

He is waaaaaayyyyyyy too dependent on his team these days to do anything, he’s like a constant liability on your team you need to babysit cause he cant fight, or defend for more then 3 seconds without concentrated healing.

Go ahead start the ā€œgit gudā€ and ā€œno skill heroā€ arguments but I really want rein to be fun again these boop changes, damage buffs, and orisa buffs have his days numbered.

I don’t think he’s going to get buffs any time soon after we’ve seen that he falls in and out of meta depending on the other heroes in it.

Rein only recently saw himself drop out of meta, which would imply that his kit isn’t drastically missing anything. He can clearly work, and he still works well today. I don’t imagine him getting any buff, like most tanks Rein’s place in the meta is heavily dependent on who else is getting played and what other factors are at work. In a DPS favored meta, Rein’s use is relegated to choke-heavy offensive maps where he can block key damage but not be expected to soak it all up, instead relying on positioning to get out of harm’s way.

I think it’s easy to forget all the strengths Rein has when he gets caught in places where he’s intended to be weak. Symmetra turrets are meant to slow down straightforward pushes, CC abilities are meant to disrupt tanks and keep them locked down. And to tanks’ advantage, they all have lots of health and some way to mitigate incoming damage. You say Rein ā€œonly has 500 HPā€ but, there’s also the whole 2000 HP barrier that he can pull out instantly and aim anywhere he wants. Yes 500 base HP might be easy to blow through, which is why the idea for Rein is that he uses his shield wisely to stop most of that damage, recharge, and then engage again.

Charge bugs aside, the ability definitely doesn’t need buffs. Again, you look at its few weak aspects and ignore what all the ability does or how its meant to be used. Charge can be messed up easily by the enemy, but that’s the counter to an ability that chucks a tank at high speeds, capable of stunning and carrying an enemy away and potentially dealing 300 damage to that target while also pushing past any other enemies. It’s a high risk, high reward ability that Rein needs to manage, and when used well, it’s one of the best abilities to turnaround a fight or make a sudden impact.

I don’t see Rein getting buffed anytime soon, not when we traditionally see him as a meta pick anyway, and not when he’s still performing decently in an unfavored meta.

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yeah likely he wont be buffed, he was unfortunately one of the few main tanks the game ever had. If you dont like orisa or winston he’s pretty much all you got and thats alot of players so his pickrate is still high. They seriously need to reduce the knockback on his hammer bare minimum. He cant even use his own weapon for the most part cause they’ll just back up and keep headshoting him and the knockback keeps em safe after every swing.

Never ?

Rein fine Orisa fine the end

i’m a rein main, i have more than 3x as much playtime on him than any other character, i love my crusader, i say this to give context to my next statement.

reins had his time to shine, let the old man rest, let the next generation see the field of battle and test their mettle(and metal in the case of orisa).

They probably won’t buff Reinhardt for a long time, unless Role Queue gets implemented.

So long as GOATS is fresh in Blizzards mind, heroes who made up the core of it aren’t going to get buffs. If Role Queue got implemented, Reinhardt would get some love, though probably indirectly, with many nerfs targeted specifically for GOATS being reverted.

Rein buffs? Did I miss something? he just went out of meta in favor of bunker. Why would he need buffs?

What 90% of the people asking for balance changes don’t realize is that in Overwatch right now a hero’s place in the meta is much more dependent on their synergies than the strength of their own kit. This is how GOATS is still a thing even though every hero involved is balanced at best, and D-tier at worst. It’s also why we need a 2 tank/2 support limit if we want any chance of actual balance in the near future. In the meantime, Rein is fine, the meta just doesn’t favor him right now. He doesn’t need buffs.