Regarding Mercy so called spam

[Nuu-21571]

I’m not even going to write a full answer, it’s exhausting to repeat the same things over and over. I’ll just say that: a vocal minority =/= correct opinion.

[FLAMESIS-1485]

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[Inky-11160]

Its still better than sticking your head in the sand then playing the victim when things backfire. Its not our fault Blizzard refused to listen to us when people said Valk would be op. Its not our fault Blizzard refused to listen to us when people said DF still had gamebreaking bugs.
For every “spam” post there is one that provides, at the very least, another option to just repeatedly nerfing a character to the point where she more closely resembles the BETA version that was buffed because it was considered too weak.

And I can bring up examples of Blizzard outright ignoring the fanbase, winging it and then proving us right for most heroes. This isn’t just a problem faced by Mercy players (even if they are the most vocal about it), everyone of us is being ignored unless we actively kiss up to the devs.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

LOL, she literally plays the exact same she always has.

Not exactly. Remember, mass Resurrect is gone and Valkyrie exists now.

Left click to heal-check

Now it’s even more tedious because of the 17% nerf to Mercy’s heals. Again, not the same as before.

Left click to heal-check
Right click to damage boost-check

I want to point out that Valkyrie quite literally makes doing this the most boring thing ever. It is literally a handicap ultimate. Heck, you don’t even need to move. Just fly up to the skybox, stand still and use your beams accordingly.

Still flies to alleys-check

One good thing that actually came out of the rework was the BHop bug.

Still ressurects-check

Its on a 30 second cooldown and requires Mercy to briefly become a potato. Do you know what that means? Way more hiding than before, which is boring, to say the very least. At least mass Resurrect was fun to use because of all the mind games you had to play.

Tell me how her gameplay has changed again pls?

I mean, the fact that she got a new, the opposite of engaging, ultimate and her former ultimate, which is more of an ultimate than Valkyrie, is on a extremely long cooldown, pretty much says that her entire gameplay was changed after the rework.

(P.S. if you don’t enjoy playing a character, maybe try something else, there’s literally 27 other to pick from)

Avoiding the problem rather than facing the problem, head on, is not a good idea if you want Overwatch to be fun. Eventually, all heroes will become as boring as Mercy if we just stop inputting feedback and just started playing other heroes. Also, one tricks can only play one hero so they are basically left in the dust.

[Lazypeon-1469]

I haven’t seen anything really talking about the drop in damage boosts use, her reduced ult charge, the longer down times between team fights when she’s on the team as compared to before. But as I said, not worth all the trouble.

I’ve actually posted in the past when people bring up how Mercy’s base gameplay hasn’t changed, so how could she suddenly be unfun for so many people, pointing out how performance does effect how one enjoys a character.

It’s not something people really want to admit, but the character needs to still be good enough at their base role to to sufficiently to do their job. If a character starts to boarder that edge of being unviable or being outright unviable, it doesn’t matter if you normally would enjoy the mechanics behind it because those mechanics aren’t providing a significant reward for their efforts.

It’s why you can see someone complain about Sombra or other various characters. The mechanics might be appealing to the people who play those characters, but the actual performance is bad enough that it kills the fun.

Obviously you shouldn’t play a character purely due to how they perform, but performance is often ignored when people bring up how they don’t understand how she can be seen as unfun by people. No one wants to be viable because of one single abiliy, the base kit should be viable and feel good on its own merits.

Mercy’s most recent nerf was in the wrong direction. I don’t mind that she got nerfed, however her healing was not the issue. Her rez being a baseline part of her kit is causing these problems and blizz keeps gutting the rest of the kit to make that ability balanced.

The healing nerf as you mentioned now means less damage boosting beams as you need to spend more time healing, so it has also affected some of the nuance involved in playing her to boot.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

@MarySPatel-1491

Oh, so you mean that pressing Q and having something happen instantly is the only reason you played Mercy?

Are we just making up quotes? Pretty sure the person you were replying to didn’t say that.

@MarySPatel-1491

Yup, it sure is fun to press Q once every 2minutes.

Good Mercy’s get rewarded with good ultimates. That being said, mass Resurrect was a niche and was incredibly easy to negate. I mean, it’s biggest counter was ult economy which most players had an idea of.

@MarySPatel-1491

It must be hard having to press Q now and actually have to control your character, terrible gameplay mechanic.

Quite literally, we don’t have to control our hero. Valkyrie gives us the option to stand still in the air. Also, conveniently, it is best used by staying as far as possible from the fight. Funny, really, since Jeff himself stated that one of the reasons for the rework was to make Mercy more engaging.

@MarySPatel-1491

So aside from the couple of seconds every 2 minutes you got to press Q and insta res,

Why are we acting as if it was impossible to deal with? She was literally underpowered before invulnerability and her pickrate in pro play was ridiculously low. This much shows how people tend to exaggerate the power of mass Resurrect. If anything, Resurrect on E is way more powerful than mass Resurrect. Here’s why:

@Titanium-1686

Balance! Or… Lack Thereof:

Resurrect is currently the reason Mercy is overpowered.

How so, you might ask, citing Mercy’s Resurrect statistics from before her rework and now, which are very close in numerical value?

Ignoring the process of elimination that would lead us to Resurrect in the first place, the difference lies within how Resurrect is used.

First is the availability of Resurrect now versus Mercy’s 1.x versions. Today, Resurrect runs on a consistent 30 second cooldown regardless as to the Mercy player’s performance. Killing a Mercy repeatedly does not impede upon their ability to return and use Resurrect; the only thing Mercy needs to have Resurrect available is time, and nothing in the game can deprive her of that. Mercy 1.x, on the other hand, needed to fill a resource meter in order to use Resurrect. Sure, that resource charged passively over time, but at an incredibly slow rate proportional to the requirement. If the player were to just wait for that resource to fill passively, they would be waiting 5 minutes and 25 seconds, which could be half the match by itself.

Anyway, because Mercy needed to fill a resource in order to use Resurrect on an acceptable basis, it was far easier to impede its availability by targeting or eliminating the Mercy. The time respawning and walking back to the fight would otherwise be time spent healing, shooting, or amplifying damage, depriving her of ultimate charge and therefore a use of resurrect.

Second is the optimal usage for the ability. Given Resurrect’s current availability and single-target mechanics, its optimal usage is obvious; it is best used to reverse the first pick in a fight, operating as a 1-up for an ally in every poke-at-choke scenario. This one-up functions as a buffer that disincentivizes an enemy engagement after the enemy gets a pick and therefore a numbers advantage, resulting in a continuation of the poke battle and a second chance for Mercy’s team to get the pick instead. As a result, Resurrect now stops the snowball before it begins, making it much more reliable when it comes to post-rez success. Preventing a snowball is much easier than trying to reverse a snowball after it has already gained velocity.

Mass-Resurrect, on the other hand, had variation in its optimal time of usage due to its inconsistent availability and its variation in numerical value. If it were to be used as a tempo-rez every time, it would simply be outmatched by the post-rework Resurrect because it cannot compete with 2.x’s cooldown rate. Thus, in order to maintain a good numerical value, a balance between tempo and mass-revives needed to be held. Finding that balance and by extension the optimal time and placement for Resurrect was difficult, making the ability harder to use overall.

As mentioned before, however, it is more difficult to reverse a snowball after it has gained velocity. Thus, Mercy 1.x’s Resurrect was far less reliable in post-rez success than Mercy’s 2.x’s Resurrect.

Resurrect is also used much earlier in the fight than it was before, reducing the window to prevent it from what used to be anywhere between the first pick and after the fifth kill to just the first pick. There is a smaller window to stop it.

As though the above advantages weren’t enough to push Resurrect over the edge, Resurrect also no longer occupies one of the team’s six ultimates. An ultimate is not lost upon its expense.

To recap:

• Availability is consistent and unaffected by performance. It is easier to have resurrect ready to be used now than it was with 1.x.
• Optimal usage is predefined, making it much easier to use Resurrect to its maximum capacity now than with 1.x.
• Now prevents snowballs before they begin, which is much easier than stopping them after they are already in motion. Much more likely to end in success.
• Is now more difficult to prevent through preliminary action, as it is used much earlier now.
• No longer takes up an ultimate slot.

While the number of revived players every match may be nearly identical, the mechanics of the newer Resurrect makes it far more powerful in application.

@MarySPatel-1491

did you hate how Mercy played

I know this isn’t a question directed towards me but, personally, I found the thrill of using mass Resurrect fun.

[MarySPatel-1491]

Not exactly. Remember, mass Resurrect is gone and Valkyrie exists now.

OK, so, once every 2 minutes or so for 15 seconds the game play changes, that change being that you fly…yea just pressing Q is WAY more fun. Lol. K.

Again, not the same as before.

Doesn’t change the game play and game play is what we’re talking about here, you’re still holding left click. Next.

I want to point out that Valkyrie quite literally makes doing this the most boring thing ever.

It still offers you more game play options that mass res did.

Its on a 30 second cooldown and requires Mercy to briefly become a potato.

As it should be. It’s the single most powerful ability in game, it should have heavy drawbacks.

I mean, the fact that she got a new, the opposite of engaging, ultimate

Again, this accounts for 15 seconds of game play, that’s only a tiny amount of time compared for the rest of the time you’re controlling Mercy. My point through this whole thread being that, in the time she’s not ulting, her core game play remains the same, which it is, you’re still holding left click, still flying to alleys and away from enemies.

Avoiding the problem rather than facing the problem,

Facing the problem head on WAS nerfing her, end of story. Again, her game play is largely the same, only the amount of healing she does is different. Next.

Good Mercy’s get rewarded with good ultimates.

Gets rewarded for HIDING. Nope, wasn’t a good game play mechanic. Not when the whole game revolved around the person playing Mercy basically not playing the game until they were called upon. Despite whether you thought hide n seek was ‘fun’ the vast majority of the player base didn’t.

Quite literally, we don’t have to control our hero.

You literally fly into the air and can move in any direction you want, it’s literally the most control you can have over any character in the game…what kind of sub bronze Mercy valks then just sits still.

Why are we acting as if it was impossible to deal with?

When did I say it was impossible to deal with? My point was that pressing Q once ever 2 minutes isn’t what makes a character fun. If you’re only picking a character to press Q you’re picking that character for the wrong reason.

I know this isn’t a question directed towards me but, personally, I found the thrill of using mass Resurrect fun.

LOL I literally said ‘aside from pressing Q’ meaning did you like how Mercy played aside from using Mass Res, which ironically you didn’t even answer, only take my words out of context. LOL.

[Falconpunch-12862]

why there must be 5 different threads for each one?

You can find a reasonable explanation by doing a google search for, “the squeaky wheel gets the grease”

I’d share it myself, but I can’t include links in my response.

[BadWidowEU-2419]

@MarySPatel-1491

OK, so, once every 2 minutes or so for 15 seconds the game play changes, that change being that you fly…yea just pressing Q is WAY more fun. Lol. K.

You forgot Resurrect on E. That, by itself, changes Mercy’s gameplay style.

@MarySPatel-1491

yea just pressing Q is WAY more fun. Lol. K.

If you dumb down ultimates to just, press Q, all ultimates except transformation ultimates would be boring. Fortunately, there’s more to mass Resurrect than just, press Q.

@MarySPatel-1491

Doesn’t change the game play and game play is what we’re talking about here, you’re still holding left click. Next.

I literally have to focus more on healing now than damage boosting whereas before, heals and dmg boost were 50/50. That’s a change in gameplay…

@MarySPatel-1491

It still offers you more game play options that mass res did.

You mean, flying towards the invisible skybox? Yeah, that’s why it’s boring to use. Also, it’s incredibly lack lustre in the sense that it can be negated by Winston’s primary fire now. Oh, and flying makes you a bigger target so now, I’m hiding more than before the rework. Yet again, another gameplay style change.

@MarySPatel-1491

As it should be. It’s the single most powerful ability in game, it should have heavy drawbacks.

Your the one arguing that the Mercy is played exactly the same as before. The fact that Resurrect makes Mercy stationary for 2 seconds already disproves this assertion.

@MarySPatel-1491

Again, this accounts for 15 seconds of game play, that’s only a tiny amount of time compared for the rest of the time you’re controlling Mercy. My point through this whole thread being that, in the time she’s not ulting, her core game play remains the same, which it is, you’re still holding left click, still flying to alleys and away from enemies.

Except it’s not… otherwise, I wouldn’t have needed to relearn Mercy every time a nerf patch went live…

@MarySPatel-1491

Facing the problem head on WAS nerfing her, end of story. Again, her game play is largely the same, only the amount of healing she does is different. Next.

And you telling us to play other heroes isn’t considered, avoiding the problem? Also, her gameplay got changed drastically. If you play her the same as pre-reworked Mercy, you are going to fail miserably.

@MarySPatel-1491

Gets rewarded for HIDING. Nope, wasn’t a good game play mechanic.

@Titanium-1686

Initial Reasons for the Rework:

When the Mercy rework was revealed, we were given a developer update that identifies two reasons for the rework.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDlCqJ1tD3M

Timestamp: 0:38 - 2:12.

These two reasons can be summarized by “Hide and rez” and “Resurrect didn’t feel good to play against” . I will start with the latter of those two reasons, as it can be undermined and pulled apart in fewer words.

“Resurrect didn’t feel good to play against” . The first and most obvious question to ask at this point is, “What ultimate, when used to any benefit of the enemy team, is fun to play against?”

Last I checked, being blown up by Rocket Barrage, sliced apart by Dragonblade, frozen by Blizzard, denied by Transcendence, nuked by Self-Destruct, or knocked down by Earthshatter, does not feel good. This is a PvP game; “disheartening to play against”, “frustrating to play against”, or “unfun to play against” are a given for at least one team for part of each match, or the game wouldn’t be empowering for the other team… and thus, wouldn’t be enjoyable. Using this as a reason to change a balanced mechanic isn’t justifiable, unless the same can be said about every other ability in the game. Otherwise, it is simply a double-standard that reveals favoritism.

The second rhetorical question to ask is, “Does it feel better to play against a hero that has been a must-pick for nearly a year?”

Would you prefer to play against a character that resembles every other hero in that their ultimate is annoying to deal with, or would you rather play against a hero that is objectively overpowered, has been nearly a win condition for far too long, and still has an annoying ultimate?

Shall we dive into a bit of player perspective philosophy?

Unless the hero is a balance concern, Player 2’s perception of Player 1’s character isn’t relevant. It is given that Player 2’s perception of Player 1’s character is likely negative when playing against Player 1. On the other hand, Player 1’s perception of Player 1’s character is not a given in any videogame. For the videogame to be successful, Player 1’s perception of their own character, or how it feels to play their own character, needs to be positive. If that perception is negative, players will stop playing. As a result, Player 1’s experience with Player 1’s character is infinitely more important than Player 2’s perception of Player 1’s character.

In short, a player needs to feel empowered by their own actions. The player does not need to feel empowered, and in a PvP game, should not and will not feel empowered, by the actions of their opponents.

Player 1’s experience with Player 1’s character was breached and disregarded when Blizzard tried to make Player 2’s perception of Player 1’s hero positive… which they also failed to do. By attempting to change that which neither needed to be changed nor could be changed, the balance team tampered with something that should never be altered.

Moving onto “Hide and rez” …

“We think it’s wrong to tell a main-healing character to go off and hide somewhere and stop healing for some period of time.”

But it is fine for a main-damage character to go off and hide somewhere and stop dealing damage for some period of time, like many heroes currently do in preparation for an ultimate?

In actuality, you are right; just not for the reason you think you are. You are correct because hiding was maladaptive for the team’s chance of victory, and therefore was a bad way to play her. Allow me to explain this in an even more elaborate manner than my past few megaposts.

The success of a mass-Resurrection (4+ revived players) depended upon several factors:

• The Mercy’s ability to survive and execute the ability in the first place (the obvious one).
• The number of players alive on each team after the Resurrection.
• The number of available ultimates held by each team after the Resurrection (but primarily the enemy team).
• The shock value of Resurrect against the enemy (by far the most important factor for the post-rez fight).

The last factor is more important than the other two post-rez factors because it determines what other factors need to advantage the Mercy in order to have a good chance at a successful Resurrection. As the enemy team is given time to reorganize and fire their first attacks at the newly Resurrected team, they would already have a positioning advantage and the first shot… that is, if the team was expecting the Resurrection.

If the enemy team is expecting the Resurrection, they will have the post-rez advantages of the first shot and additional positioning time. Of course, this is a very bad situation to be in for the newly revived team, requiring some very strong advantages of their own to compensate and have a chance at winning the fight. In this case, they would need both the numbers advantage and the ultimate ability advantage.

If the enemy team isn’t expecting the Resurrection, then the Mercy could probably get by with either the numbers advantage or the ultimate advantage and still have a chance at winning, as the enemy team might not capitalize on their positioning and first shot opportunities as well as they should due to the shock value of Resurrect.

How does “Hide and rez” fit into all of this, you might ask? Hiding before the fight removes the possibility of having enough of those advantages against the enemy team in the post-rez fight, and therefore any chance of a victorious post-rez fight against any team of similar skill.

Hiding leaves the initial fight to a 5v6, the missing hero on the Mercy’s team being the main healer and primary source of sustain. Obviously, this is a huge advantage for the team of 6 in the first fight, allowing them to steamroll over Mercy’s team with likely zero casualties, and ultimate expenditures used only to counter any of the opposition’s ultimates. On top of this, the team of 6 also now collectively has 2000-3000 more ultimate charge from killing 5 players in addition to any healing dealt over the duration of that fight. Thus, it hands the ultimate ability advantage to the team opposing the Mercy.

The opposing team, assuming they are paying even the slightest attention to what is happening around them, would notice that the enemy is crumbling very easily for a supposed 6v6, raising suspicions as to whether or not the fight really is a 6v6, quickly leading to the realization that the enemy Mercy is missing from the fight. From this, only one conclusion could logically be drawn; she’s waiting to use Resurrect. There goes the ultimate’s shock value.

At this point, even if the team of 6 somehow managed to sustain 2 casualties in the initial fight, it won’t matter. If both teams entered the fight with the same number of ultimates, the team that does not have the hiding Mercy has at least two more ultimates than the other team (2000+ ultimate charge, Mercy’s team used Resurrect). One or two offensive ultimates is the absolute maximum a team needs to wipe a freshly-revived team when they are expecting the Resurrection, resulting in the revived team staring down the barrel of a gun they have no chance of avoiding.

In contrast, a Mercy who stays with her team keeps the fight at a 6v6, granting her team more sustain and forcing the enemy to expend ultimates to overpower them. Once the ultimates started firing, the mercy would distance themselves from the fight, evade, or take cover, laying down pistol fire or amplifying damage rather than attempting to heal those for whom healing would be useless. As a result, the enemy was less likely to realize that Mercy has Resurrect (the enemy was comparatively difficult to kill, removing the prompt to think about why they were crumbling easily in the first place), Mercy’s team was more likely to pick off a few enemies, and Mercy has successfully baited more ultimates from the enemy team. As a result, her team has more advantages and fewer disadvantages in the post-rez fight.

The only cost to staying with the team was an increased chance of being picked off before being able to revive the team, which just follows the same risk choice explained in the Resurrect section; if taking more controllable risks now helps to mitigate the high risk later, then taking those smaller risks now is safer than not in the long run.

Consequently, reviving a team after hiding typically resulted in a second wipe, while staying with the team until it was unsafe to do so was more likely to yield favorable results. That is why it was “wrong to tell a main-healing character to go off and hide somewhere” . It was a bad tactic, as it usually backfired.

Rather than letting the issue resolve itself by fixing the SR exploit that ultimately led to the tactic’s rise in the first place, the developers decided to remove Resurrect as an ultimate entirely. They changed the thing that wasn’t the problem, and ended up pissing off the playerbase.

Sound familiar?

Anyway, I’ve used this example many times before, but removing Resurrect as an ultimate because some players abandoned their team leading to a second wipe is equivalent to removing Rocket Barrage as an ultimate because Pharah players too often blew themselves up with it. There’s no need to intervene; the tactic will die out on its own, so long as the ranking system isn’t feeding it.

Ironically, the rework ended up only replacing one tactic of hiding with another. This time, however, the is no drawback to it, making the tactic beneficial. Valkyrie is best used by pressing Q and then flying the hell away, barely staying within beam range of the team. Doing this minimizes risk, but compromises no rewards. A Mercy playing closer to her team in Valkyrie is not helping her team any more than a Mercy 29 meters from her team, and is only exposing herself to enemy fire. Consequently, staying as far as possible from the fight for Valkyrie’s full duration is the way to go.

@MarySPatel-1491

Not when the whole game revolved around the person playing Mercy basically not playing the game until they were called upon

The fact that tempo ressing exists already disproves this assertion…

@MarySPatel-1491

Despite whether you thought hide n seek was ‘fun’ the vast majority of the player base didn’t.

“Hide n Res” is a garbage strategy. I don’t use such tactics. Also, “Hide n Res” sets your team up for failure. In fact, you should be happy that the enemy Mercy has a hiding Mercy. That’s an easy win.

@MarySPatel-1491

You literally fly into the air and can move in any direction you want, it’s literally the most control you can have over any character in the game…what kind of sub bronze Mercy valks then just sits still.

Well you see, the best way to use Valkyrie is to fly up to skybox. After that, just sit back and enjoy watching your team die. All jokes aside, you don’t need to move with Valkyrie. Just position yourself someonewhere, perhaps behind something that obstructs LoS, and sit there. Moving around makes you a bigger target. Staying on the down low is a much safer approach.

@MarySPatel-1491

When did I say it was impossible to deal with? My point was that pressing Q once ever 2 minutes isn’t what makes a character fun.

It is if said ultimate required mind games. Also, should’ve mentioned this earlier, but fun is subjective. What you may see as fun won’t be the same for everyone therefore, you can’t be telling people what is fun about Mercy. That being said, I shouldn’t have enforced my view of fun onto you. Apologies.

@MarySPatel-1491

LOL I literally said ‘aside from pressing Q’ meaning did you like how Mercy played aside from using Mass Res, which ironically you didn’t even answer, only take my words out of context. LOL.

Hmhmhm. I’ll answer it again. I didn’t hate playing Mercy before. I hate playing her now. Why? Resurrect requires you to become a potato and Valkyrie is the most boring and unoriginal ult I’ve ever heard of. It is a jack of all trades, remotely insufficient in none. Old Mercy, I loved, because she required some thought to play and the idea of strategically avoiding ultimates to save your team always seemed fun imo.

[Olingova-2123]

Haha speaking about “Anti Mercy main” theory after renaming his account to “RevertMercy”; looks funny

[Åvacyn-1981]

A lot of Mercy players want to be heard and haven’t been. Being loud might be a way to get the devs attention and it’s really depressing that a lot of posters have been silenced or their posts have been unjustly locked. Mercy has had 9 mega threads that have been ignored and locked. You can blame the developers for not giving us real answers and locking mega threads made by them. It does start to look like spam after while, but people don’t spam things for no reason. When someone isn’t even bothering to listen, you start yelling. Spam is a way I think people are trying to yell to force the devs to hear us.

[taco-12703]

If one spends all their time shuffling words around they can make anything seem like spam.

[Qwazi-2242]

It isn’t so much about the topic as it is about people wanting their own opinion to be heard. If you reply to the bottom of a thread you have maybe 5 people read your message before there are too many replies for people to even care about your message anymore. If you create your own thread then hundreds of people check your message…

It’s psychology… There just are a lot of people who have opinions on Mercy, and they all want to their opinion to be read. The only way to deal with this is to have fewer people with strong opinions on Mercy.

[ALCATRAZ-22492]

dude dont tell peaple how to live their life they r free if they want to post mercy thread

[Misericordia-21321]

But the question is: what do you care about? Everyone is free to open or discuss threads.
If you see a thread dedicated to mercy, ignore it and read other posts.

[HoldW-1966]

Are you an en employee at Blizzard? How do you know this?

There are explicit examples where user feedback were directly addressed;

• Ana’s primary healing passing through full health allies
• Reinhardt’s shatter animation getting reworked to better represent it’s actual hitbox

Whether these changes were successful or not is arguable, but these were direct results of user feedback, mainly from the forums.

[Xian396-1819]

And how will keeping quiet solve the issue? The forums is a place for any topic regarding overwatch. Mercy is just a very popular topic is all

[KushMints-1483]

Hopefully they will make a sub forum for balance discussions. This will make both sides happy, mercy players are not forced to a mega thread and people can have their general discussion forum back without the mercy spam. Everybody wins.

[RainFloodIce-1732]

Her base kit is the thing they are complaining about since she’s naturally a boring character in either iteration

[RainFloodIce-1732]

You know they’ll just come back here once they “feel” like they’ve been ignored
Just like the megathread even though I’ve seen a dev post in there before