Refusing to switch

remember when Jeff Kaplan said that not every hero is going to be useful In Overwatch. So when a person refuses to switch a hero that is not useful that should be considered throwing Because if a person can’t get kills And refuses to switch because he has no counter play then that should be considered throwing and it should be banning. Because nothing is more irritating when someone refuses to cooperate when it’s a team game. so I like to hear from Jeff about the report System not banning players That refused to switch because they’re throwing by not Switching

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This my friend, is why they added the make a squad feature. I suggest you use it to avoid the people you are talking about.

Banning people for their choice of hero is bad, because then a third of the cast would get you banned which is silly.

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You don’t think I use find a group. that is like the only thing I use and we still get those kind of players

Jeff has also stated that hero choice is not a bannable offense. Neither is poor play. Not only has he been clear about this himself, but the game reiterates this point in the report menu. How much more transparency on the matter are you looking for?

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Insist on all squad members to have public profiles so you can verify they are flexible players.

No I don’t. I don’t remember him ever saying that. Plus even if he did that would be a cop-out argument used to justify bad balance that he himself is a part of.

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What he may have said is that not all heroes will be equally viable in all situations.

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in order to make any combination of characters equally useful together, you would have to make all characters very similar or the same.

it would actually be interesting to have an OW ruleset with a old school Doom/Quake/UT weapon system (i e pick them up and hoard as many diffent guns as you can)

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This is what he actually said. It wouldn’t make sense for him to say that players who choose to play a hero that Blizzard has spent considerable time and effort into creating and polishing would be banned for choosing said hero. Not only would it be incredibly unfair to the players, but it’d be a slap in the face to his own development team.

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Thank you for proving my point

He did say that. 20 characters.

Yep, it’s a very important distinction.
One says that some heroes won’t be equally viable in every situation. The other implies that certain iterations of heroes are always unviable in every situation.

He didn’t:

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No, he didn’t. There is a difference between “in Overwatch” vs “in all situations”

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switch to what? Why you think anything else will be better especially with salt you poured onto them with your demands to switch

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Probably another lie. They’re reworking half of the rooster to make all usefull in every situation. Bad thing

Your opinion is not a fact. I know it’s hard for you to understand this but it remains not a fact.

Just because you THINK a certain hero is useless on a situation doesn’t mean they actually are.

If that was the case for example we’d still be stuck with the season 1 mentalities like

  • Widow on attack is bad (we know now that she’s actually better on attack)
  • Junkrat on attack is throwing (nope?)
    etc etc.

Just like most of the community was wrong back then, so you, I and everyone else can be wrong about stuff right now.

So your opinion on what is useful and what’s not should remain just that. Your opinion. Until you get hired as a coach or something you definitely should not regard it as anything more.

And especially not as grounds for reporting people.

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He always suggested people change their heroes to fit the situation, but at no point did he ever say not switching is “throwing.”

Suggest =/= required

How about you stop cherry picking quotes and trying to disguise your personal bias as Blizzard’s official stance.

All in all, the game lets you pick whoever you want. It’s not up to your teammates who you should play. I do think it’s respectful to people to be willing to gel with the team composition, but you can’t ban somebody - it’s not a bannable offence - for just playing one hero, as long as you’re trying your best to win with that hero.

The allure and the fantasy of Overwatch is there are these 26 heroes, and you can log in at any moment and be one of them. We should be trying to keep them all viable, and all decent picks within a team composition. I mean, sometimes you’re gonna be countered, but we can’t leave it at other players’ discretion to decide what you should be doing.

Another post by Jeff specifically differentiates not-switching from throwing. That means not-switching =/= throwing.

One Tricking is not bannable and should not be reported (it even says so in the text)

Throwing is bannable and should be reported. We appreciate your help here.

The report system also explicitly says not-switching not reportable, so not-switching is not “throwing” by Blizzard’s definition and not punishable.

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" Hacker, Cheater, Toxic Players are OK but when some1 doesnt switch there Hero i didnt like then plz ban " :woman_shrugging:

The thing is if this would be reportable, they would need to watch for every report an entire video recording to decide upon. This is just not feasable at all due to the high work loads it would generate.

It was actually about not every hero is going to have 50% pickrate.

Also refusing to switch doesn’t necessarily means throwing.

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