Reaper needs more buffs

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For someone who is supposed to be THE Tank Buster, he does a pretty terrible job at it. But why is this? He has shotguns that do massive damage upclose, but what is the reason he is so bad at his job?

His shotguns have high damage, but also poor spread and range. That’s understandable, they are shotguns afterall. However, he is so bad at dualing anything that isn’t a tank, it’s kinda sad. If someone is atleast 7 or so meters away from you, they can completely burst you down before you can do anything. Can you use Wraith form to close distance? Yes, but there is also a problem with that.

Wraith form is also your only way of escaping, if you use that to close distance, you better hope the person you’re killing has no mobility to outrun you. Shadowstep is a huge joke of an abilty and is practically a free kill for anyone who sees it coming. It’s loud, easily seen and leaves you vulnerable before you can even react.

He is slow and his effective range is in the face of people, also where STUNS are most effective. You jump in there and you are absolutely dead within 5 seconds of being smashed, booped around like a pinata. His inability to fulfil his job makes him a terrible character.

His ult is also a joke, it has to be the weakest tied with Deadeye while also leaving him vulnerable to headshots and stuns. It’s low damage and slow movement speed make him increasingly easy to shut down unless you pull the classic S2 jump from ledge tactic.

Reaper is not a fun character to play unless you’re being pocketed like crazy. His slow speed does not complement his effective range and does a terrible job at “tank” busting when other characters are doing a MUCH better job.

My current suggestions are a speed buff, either passive or ability. A rework OR buff to Shadowstep so that it isn’t a giant “Shoot me in the head for free” button. Maybe a small buff to Death Blossom, and maybe a spread decrease as well. He needs tools to get in, do MASSIVE damage and get out. And currently it’s more dying the second you try doing anything because almost every character outranges you.

Because there is no absolute reason to play him for tank busting, when I can do a much better job as McRightClick or Spamzo murdering tanks from either stunning or distance.

Please buff the edgy wannabe.

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The problem with making a Hero a Tank Buster is that doing so will almost always result in them being able to beat the face in of any squishy who steps up to them…or even just non-squishes

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Which tank kills him 1v1?

So he isn’t bad at dualing tanks?

That is entierly depending on who they are.
A brig can’t touch you at that range.

Is the out. Not the in.

Not at all.

About 1-8 meters.

Good thing he has wraith.

Solo killing an entire team?

Neither are weak.
3060 damage is not weak.

You can crouch.

What?

I think he is.

Again, he isn’t slow.

Who? Other than bastion, who?

Wraith?

But you take 0 damage in wraith form, or behind a barrier, or when you flank, etc.

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Ffs, he’s not a “tank buster”, he kills squishes quicker (if you can aim).

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damn this dude must be #1 reaper hater silver tank main.

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I don’t know how they can justify buffing mccree and then leaving reaper as he is. Honestly I think ow have lost the plot. I don’t think they know what’s what anymore. The more bad changes they make the more they ruin the game and the harder it is to correct

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I listed 2 other characters that you ignored, both McCree and Hanzo.

Brigitte doesn’t outrange Reaper but sure as hell made him worse than he already is. Armor ruins his damage and her stuns/boops put him at an even worse place. I’m not sure how he fares now with the recent nerf to Shield bash, but her armor still poses a problem for him.

Wraith is a one time use that you either engage or disengage with, the the latter being the more commonly way use of the ability. If a Reaper constantly has to use Wraith to escape, he is not doing his job of killing.

Roadhog can easily dispatch of Reaper, given that he isn’t pocketed or you screw up with your hook. Zarya can easily contest him at higher levels of charge and I know forsure Reinhardt doesn’t have much of a problem with him. The only tanks I see him countering are both Hammond and Winston. D.Va has a much easier time with missles and DM, while Orisa has fortify and can dance around her shield, along with being around teammates.

I fail to see how you prove your point of him not being slow? He’s a close range hero with only one good ability, the other being a practical death button and lack of any speed. Why would you use Wraith to engage? Tracer and Genji both have tools of getting in, Reaper has a one time use mobility option.

If he isn’t as bad as you seem to imply, why isn’t he being used much more? The game is practically Sniperwatch but his slow movement and lack of range leave him vulnerable to being shot at before he can do anything.

I’m sorry but that is such a terrible counter argument. Almost every character in the game can kill faster “if you can aim”. If I can aim, I can instantly take out a 250hp or less hero out of the fight instantly with a well placed headshot by either Widow or Hanzo.

Reaper has much shorter range and spread to deal with, and like I stated, unless the barrel of his shotgun is up your behind, he isn’t going to going to do real damage.

I should also mention to the nature of his wide spread and lack of range, he has a much harder time dueling squishies who have much smaller hitboxes compared to tanks.

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I’m sorry, let me rephrase that.

Just because he has a big spread doesn’t mean he’s a tank buster. He’s better off going for anything else, getting 1 or 2 picks, and returning back to his team.

At medium his damage output is still better than most of the other close range flankers.

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Now, I don’t remember exactly where his “Tank Busting” title came from, but I really have to disagree with him good against 200 hp heroes. I would REALLY like to see proof of how he does more damage at medium range than the other flankers. Maybe against Tanks perhaps, but surely not smaller heroes. Tracer has rapid fire SMGs with decent range, Genji has no fall off on Shurikens, and Sombra recieved a spread buff which increased her range and damage.

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y’all are gonna regret it when another hero like brigitte, that anybody can play, becomes meta because LUL BUFFS

most of u can’t even handle reaper in Gold idk where all this whining that he is bad comes from

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Hanzo deals 104 damage per second.
Mccree deals 140.
Reaper deals 280.

Exactly. He needs to use it as an engage so that it secures the kill.

I don’t see why the reaper should be alone on his team against more players on the other.

Almost all heroes in the game have the same speed.
Reaper can gain an additional 50%.

Because it puts you right on top of the enemy, at full health.

What does genji have other than dash?

Because he isn’t good against every single hero in the game?

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I really hope you’re not implying I’m anything around Gold, considering you can just see my profile with a few clicks. I’m not asking for him to be given noobstomping, gg ez buffs, I just want him to actually be decent. But, considering how this amazing this balance team is, I wouldn’t doubt it would be “too much” if he ever is buffed.

Hanzo can deal considerable amount of consistant damage with both his primary fire and Storm arrow, and McCree has been underfire for how extremely good FtH is now.

You act like Wraith can be used the same as Tracer’s blinks, if you use it to engage a fight, you won’t have an escape tool. Can it be used to close the gap? Yes, but that is situational and can leave you without any escape. As if anyone with half a brain is gonna see a wraithing Reaper coming at them and think “Im just gonna stand still”

Genji has double jump, wall climb and resets.

Or he isn’t being used because he is objectively one of the worst dps?

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If we keep having this mindset of him being a tank buster. He will always be bad.

Tanks are at the front of the line. They have dps behind them and support healing that.

And you expect a Reaper, one dps. To be the front line of your team and be able to take out the tank by themselves who have the highest health in the game? That’s un realistic and a dps who could do that is op.

Reaper is not a tank buster, he’s just good at 1v1. Surprising he can take out squishy hero far faster than he can a tank.

His intention use is to flank, hide a lot, pick battles and be an assassin. Not to be a front line tank.

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Reaper’s role and niche gets taken away more and more with every new patch…

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Zarya, Dva and Orisa can 1v1 him.

Zarya is the only tank that actually counters him

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Hanzo can deal 125/250 dps
McCree can deal 70/140 dps
Reaper can deal a potential 7-140/14- 280 dps. Depending on how many pallets hit.

Note: all these numbers are without damage falloff

Edit. Made a mistake and looked at damage per shot and not per second. Still doesn’t take away from the point tho.

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Reaper doing high damage is joke, when he needs to be literally touching you for all pellets to hit.

If i threw pellets with my hand instead of using a shotgun they would spread less. That will always make him useless in this game.

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they’re busy making 500 skins for the “esports” teams

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This post is so full of twisted data I genuinely cannot believe it was to any degree well-intentioned.

Reaper’s damage exceeds all other dps in 5 meters only against targets that are big enough to eat all the pellets. Anything beyond that, or any target with a slim figure, Reaper is absolutely useless.

Using wraith to engage is by far the most bronze thing you can possibly do. Everyone will see you coming, you will get CC’ed the second you exit wraith, and get bursted down. Even if no one has any CC, everyone will focus you and you will have no way to escape. This is the most inane suggestion of your entire post and is so obviously wrong that it borderlines trolling.

Reaper has low mobility. Fullstop. He walks with almost twice the footsteps sound as other heroes, with a hitbox twice as large, and is slower than Genji and Tracer. “Reaper can gain an additional 50%” if he uses wraith form for mobility. Oh wait, or is it used for reload? Wait, is it used to engage? Or disengage? Gee, does your version of Overwatch provide Reaper with 15 charges of Wraith form?

Putting you right on top of the enemy team, at full health. Where the enemy will have zero drop off, you have zero way to escape, and they will CC the living hell out of you, assuming they didn’t simply decide to press S and walk backwards, or use a myriad of vertical mobility skills to escape and leave you standing like an idiot.

If your strategy with Reaper is using wraith to engage and shadowstep to get out, I legitimately do not know what to tell you. Maybe you’re just employing some amazing tactics that the entire Ovewatch community is not aware of. I have never heard of standing still for 1 second in the midst of the entire enemy team to escape, unless you turned on Godmode hacks.

Reaper isn’t used more because he is bad. Not because he isn’t good against every single hero. He is outright bad. And the quicker you accept that, the less you look like you are twisting facts to support your biased hatred of an underpowered hero simply because he killed you a few times

P.S. Death blossom dealing 3060 damage is impossible. Not “very difficult” impossible, but literally impossible.

You need 6 heroes with enough hp to take 510 damage, but with no armor, no shields, no defense matrix, no sleep, no flashbang, no rocket punch, no deflect, no EMP, no Barrage, no wraith form, no fade, no transcendence, no sound barrier, no bubble, no shields, no boops, no knockback, no outright burst damage.

I am increasingly convinced your version of Overwatch is different to ours

Edit: Brief check of your profile, apparently you have enough knowledge to design your own Reaper playstyle that is vastly different to all Grandmaster and Top 500 opinions, decide Reaper is a very strong hero, and claim to enjoy playing him very much with 11 levels of experience. Your IQ must be off the charts.

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in terms of the way it’s set up and used, death blossom is essentially a much worse version of riptire. maybe

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