Reaper was already strong when 2 2 2 was put into the game. Now with the barrier nerfs he is even more oppressive. Blizzard…can you please for the love of Grod revert this currently unkillable, high self sustaining hero to his pre goats self? There is no reason for him to have a buff designed to counter a comp that no longer exists and is no longer possible to run.
I know what people will say “pick mcree and flash him” all that does it cause mirror matches. I can barely force myself to play more than 1 game of overwatch anymore before I log out. Its too much work to try and counter him when it takes so little effort for him to get kills without dying.
I spent years grinding my way up the ladder and only a few days to fall nearly 2 ranks. I know I am not the only person having issues with reaper. Even the big streamers that you decide to constantly send gifts to have made videos and threads about reaper. If you wont listen to us below diamond players at least listen to the high ranked streamers. I mean it seems like you only listen to them anyway so why not now?
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brig handle reaper easily. technically reaper is worse in this patch than before with the armor changes.
not saying he doesn’t need some re-tuning just he really isn’t that big of a deal. hog, brig, mcree, and mei give reaper an extremely hard time when played well.
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None of those heroes you listed give him a hard time. Mcree doesn;t have time to try and flashbang several flanking heroes at the same time. Hog doesn’t kill reaper even after a hook reaper can instantly press his invulnerability button before hog can do the melee/shoot combo. Brigs self heal is a lot lower than reapers self heal seeing how they both heal while doing damage. No point in even hacking him with sombra he still self heals and does the same damage
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actually reaper does get countered by mccree, all mccree has to do is roll back and shoot him in the head, the spread on reapers shotguns is really huge.
also brig can indefinitly push him away from the fight.
and if things actually comes to it, you can just enlist d.va to make her put him in the box, he is simply powerless for 2 seconds and if you can’t kill a reaper that isn’t selfsustaining for 2 seconds i really don’t know what to tell you.
hell even orisa is good against him.
but i do agree he needs to be changed but for entirely different reasons.
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Reaper is fine. Also majority of streamers and pro think reaper is fine.
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Help, I can’t deal with a character that can only do non meme levels of damage in melee range.
Barrier changes don’t mean much to Reaper because he already had to go past them to shoot you anyways.
shield bash, melee twice while jumping around like a crack head, whip shot, shield yourself and use cover … wash rinse repeat. reaper doesn’t heal when shooting brig’s shield and brig’s armor reduces reapers damage more than last patch.
brig/ana combo shutdown reaper and brig giving anyone armor is further reducing the damage reaper can do.
i’d rather face a reaper than a doomfist. even bad doomfists can get lucky and one shot you. at least reaper has to shoot you a few times. hell i’d rather face reaper than any of the snipers too. his ult is stupid easy to cancel by quite a few heroes and he can’t one shot anything.
I will not say he become stronger, bc his counters now stronger aswell, bc shields become weaker. But he definetely should be nerfed to 20-30% lifesteal instead of cuttent 40%, and his shadow step sound cue should be louder. Hate the fact, that I can switch to reapper an win unwinable match, bc he is so easy to play and does to much. I want skill demand heroes wil be shine and moba aspect get more ballance against shooter aspect (talking about df). Reapper is so easy to play, that’s just stupid… you can get value just by facerolling. Same is mei.
Reaper is hard-countered by McCree - your statement to the contrary points out a real lack of understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the Heroes.
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I wanna see how the changes play out first, but I think he could use a 5-10% reduction on the self healing. He needs shadow step the way it is, that ability was broken and useless before.
seeing how the game is a 6v6 if the other team is running multiple flankers you expect mcree to deal with them all? Its just as dumb as people expecting sombra to counter every annoying character because she has hack.
The power creep in this game is currently bonkers. Reaper, mei, doom, junk, shouldn’t be as strong as they are. They were specifically buffed to deal with goats. You can deny it all you want.And instead of giving them proper nerfs they powercreeped other heroes to try and get them to the power level of those 4. Now you have mcree that shoots 10 times faster than he used to, pharah missiles being shot 10 times faster than before, baptiste basically being turned into a dps hero, hamster getting buffed so that he can use shield while rolling now. Power creep on top of power creep.
I can barely deal with this game anymore. Went from climbing my way up to mid gold to falling nearly into bronze as reaper 1v6’s teams being an unkillable monster with extreme lifesteal.
Sorry for the rant but the more people deny the power creep bs the worse the game will get.
Ok.
Brig soft counters reaper hard counters his ult
Reaper gets value by feeding off tanks but if a small red head keeps jumping in your face when you try to approach said tanks it can mess up your rhythm or force out your wrath which could be a wrap
Mccree hard counters reaper and yes if the enemy team is running lets say tracer and reaper. Mccree should be ok remember he should be back there with 1 or two supports and generally not too far from tanks.
I am sorry you are struggling against him. Try to keep track of his wrath form when he uses it call out reaper no wrath so that everyone who is in chat who hates reaper will jump on him then he gets wrecked.
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Honestly all they need to do is revert the stupid buff that he should never have gotten. Make Teleport a clunky, loud, out of combat ability. Wraith already has insane utility and power, he doesn’t need another ability with insane utility and power, on top of one of the best passives in the game.
It kind of bad when the answer to these two questions is the same:
Who is the best Anti-Dive DPS?
Who is the best dive DPS?
(It’s Reaper)
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It’s every match dude. You basically are forced to pick 1 of 4 dps. Every single game is Reaper/Doomfist/Mei/Mccree and any deviation from that is a guaranteed loss.
It’s incredibly boring and turns every game into a mirror match. And if you don’t then you toss the game.
I think he just needs a shift in his effectiveness against tanks vs everything else. He’s a terror for tanks, but a joke against squishies with mobility or range.
my ideal change:
- pellet damage 7 ==> 6, so 140/shot ==> 120/shot.
- Spread reduced by 30%
Against tanks his spread doesn’t matter, he will nearly always get max damage. So we need to tone that down. On the other hand, against squishies his spread makes all the difference, so we buff him there.
Yeah, no. Brig is somewhat disruptive to Reaper but Reaper will absolutely destroy her in a duel and she can’t really make him ineffective. Lucio is better, but even so it’s a partial disruption at best.
You say it like its a bad thing.
Though with all seriousness I would not mind a tiny nerf.
Its almost as if the game has a combination of heroes that work best with/against each other.
Like its always had.
Reaper’s whole shtick is to kill people if they let him close the gap or one shot if he pulls off a hard flabk. Taking that away makes him Tf2’s scout without double jumps.
Btw he is very easily countered by literally any cc, heroes with small hitboxes and his ult can easily be cancelled by Brig, Sigma, Hog even if reaper jumps into them while ulting.