Reaper and Tracer at 20m range

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Tracer kills bot at 20 range in 2 clips and it takes 2 seconds
Reaper kills bot at 20 range in 4 clips and it takes 16 seconds

Honestly i don’t understand why strongest OW dps should outclass one of weakest so hard. They both close range, Tracer have better mobility and less hp, Reaper have no mobility and high hp - here it’s “kinda” balanced.

But effective range and just dps difference is so massive…

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U want reaper to have tracer’s guns?

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with his current effective range even baseball bat would be better

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I wonder if a spread reduction would make Reaper OP. He’s great against big targets but he’s sorely lacking when taking on smaller enemies at any range. Would the tighter spread make him stronger against tanks? It would help his range issues but I can’t see any down side to trying it.

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well, roadhog can oneshot reaper in two different ways and no one bats an eye

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I think Reaper should have a Slug Shot Right click weather its a cooldown or alt fire it would make him more viable for other situations to have a less damage but medium range fire thats not a spread.

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it actually takes tracer 4 clips at 20 meters, with a clip being 2 seconds with 1.25 seconds reload, it takes 11.75 seconds to kill at 20 meters

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Couldn’t record earlier, was at work

A bit miscalculation from my side… but also from yours. At 20m, behind line Tracer needs 2 full clips and 0.2-0.5 of third. One step forward and it’s 2 clips

Reaper… It taking ages. His spread is so high he can shoot both bots at same time, but dealing zero damage. Some shots are not even touching bots even when crosshair on their body

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7H9xfTAl1I

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of course machine pistols have more range than shotguns

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I see, you don’t know, how real shotguns work, right?

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I’m talking about games not real life lol

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So do a comparison on Reaper and Tracer versus a tank at close range.

I thought Reaper was supposed to be an in-your-face tank buster so his spread is no longer a disadvantage. Bots are not tanks and don’t have the same size hit-boxes.

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not at all actually. Reaper’s hitbox is massive, Tracer’s is tiny, the HP difference means nothing and just compensates for hitbox size. If anything, Tracer takes longer to kill since you’ll be missing half your shots on her.

Tracer is directly better than Reaper.

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Reaper is worse at killing tanks anyway. His best target is winston. D.va have too much armor and DM, her teammates just kills reaper before he could even start actually do damage to her. Roadhog can oneshot him in two ways

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Reaper needs some kind of crit damage multiplier similar to Widowmaker. He should be a true tank buster.

Also make shadowstep better and not so wonky. Not quite Moira fade levels of amazing, but something smooth and quick.

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tvtropes. org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShortRangeShotgun

Reaper’s shotguns could definitely use a buff.

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how is high spread even an advantage, tracer have more damage and lower spread, big spread gives nothing but downsides

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Does Reaper’s passive allow him to stay in the fight longer, doing more damage over time than Tracer can? As soon as she takes a hit she’s going to Blink or Recall out.

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No? It regens for like 15 health but only if it’s full damage and there is no armor. As S76 i can heal for thousands, as Reaper its 600hp in 4 rounds match

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Reaper’s ult is typically far more impactful thanTracer’s, but I see what you mean. He shouldn’t be a Bloombot.

I know people have suggested he ignores armor. What do you think of that?