Spent a few hours playing Rivals last night and this morning. I was hoping for an OW killer to get me out of this terrible game. All I have to say is Rivals is trash. Feels like a really bad dollar store OW clone in 3rd person. I have never experienced combat so unrewarding in my life. Zero team play everyone just runs around playing death match. Terrible casual cash shop game they should have just released a mobile version.
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I was gonna say you shouldn’t need another game to take you away from OW, but it’s your life. Just stop playing OW. Rivals is a lot of fun to me and looking forward to playing more tonight.
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As bad as OW has become it’s still the best of the genre which I enjoy.
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I’d rather stare at my library of games than play OW, but I know what you mean
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Maybe a different genre is the play for you? If ow is in your opinion still the best in the genre, and you were hoping for a game to “get you out of this terrible game (ow)” why even bother with hero shooters? If the best one is “terrible”
Coming from someone who has little interest in playing rivals atm…so was OW when it first launched
The actual gameplay loop takes time to develop….the community has yet to establish how the game is played yet
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Together with total freedom will be one of the main points that makes it a strong game. OW is TOO team reliant and therefore losses or wins will often be out of your control making the experience trashy.
On that note, Rivals just launched and sits in S0, so see it as a big beta test to see where the route is going. 3rd person is brilliant for people who want to look at their own skins (making them more desirable) and the brawly fight makes it feel less serious and more like a fun game. Couple that with a BP that never expires and you have a brilliant game a lot of players will go to.
If you want pure teamplay, OW in 5v5 is still the best option to just be part of something without much impact. 6v6 makes this even worse.
Its not a OW killer, but it makes already a TON of things better and it just launched and its at its worst point.
This also. No one has any idea and what is weak or strong. Its the discovery perioud. It will take a few seasons.
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You literally are not contractually obligated to play. To get out of the game just hit exit I do it a couple times a day myself. And then sometimes when I really don’t want to play it but feel like gaming I play, get this, a whole different game all together. Really helps the mental health only playing games you like.
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If you don’t like Overwatch, you should stop playing Overwatch.
Also it’s unreasonable to expect Overwatch-level team coordination in a game where most people don’t even know what they’re doing. Overwatch is 8 years old. Rivals is 18 hours old…
Players (those that didn’t have access to the beta) don’t know the maps. They don’t know the visual and audio cues. They don’t know how characters interact with the enemy or allied characters.
Maybe give it more than a day if you are wanting team play improvement?
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It’s going to be incredibly difficult to have one. At this point the only thing that can “kill” Overwatch is … Overwatch. And that’s because:
– People are invested effort into the game
– People invested money into cosmetics
– OW still have one of if not the best character designs
– OW still has great assets, like sound effects
Yeah, there are tons of negative things about OW - which is why I don’t really play it. But that means a competitor would need to solve those things. And spoiler alert - OW doesn’t have this solved because it’s really hard to do:
– Match-making
– Character balance
– Overall gameplay across all tiers
– Community experience, like cheaters, etc
– Monetization
And it’s not enough to just solve it - or “solve better”. It must be an overwhelmingly better solution and the offering to cause people to switch. And - yeah, sure, OW team doesn’t seem to be the brightest bulb in the batch, but they at least tried solving those too (several times) - over many years. And they didn’t manage.
On top of that, a competitor would also need to absolutely blow OW out of the water on OW’s own strong points, like designs, sound, lore, etc. Which is all really unlikely since OW is just that good.
So, bottom line = the moment Rivals didn’t get the “yay” effect it became clear that it won’t be an OW “killer”. There’s still hope that it will be viable on the market and put up some fight, hopefully causing things to improve in OW - but that’s it. OW isn’t going anywhere, that much is clear.
You’re mean people aren’t playing like Grandmasters on release?
That’s crazy
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Exactly. We went through this, too. The people who are most nostalgic for launch OW miss the time where nobody knew how to play yet and comps and strategy didn’t matter. Once we figured out how to play and started trying to win, it was a different game. I like games where people know what they’re doing, but that’s just me.
I play Overwatch mainly because it has no real anticheat, so I can play it on a VM and do tracing or other things on my second monitor outside the vm. I like that it’s not as intrusive as the other shooter games.
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It is new, give it time, but I do agree. Marvel Rivals is not really in the same realm as Overwatch, but it is a nice sub to get a break from Overwatch from time to time.
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I don’t mean to defend Overwatch or Rivals but… the best “overwatch killer” is you 
, not playing it. Don’t get me wrong, I mean if something isn’t worth your time, it’s right that it doesn’t become an obsession until a game comes along that “saves” you from the time wasted on something you may no longer love. 
but life goes on. I personally don’t go crazy for rivals either, and if I have to be a little blunt, it’s also overly optimistic about the gameplay freedom it has given to so many heroes since launch, I don’t rule out at all that it could have heavy meta repercussions that are impossible to exonerate without limitations (some of which we already know from ow1).
HOWEVER… I think Overwatch has a new type of competition to take point from in some ancillary things (for example I loved being able to see the highlights of the whole team), just as rivals has in a certain sense taken Overwatch as a case study for its shortcomings (and it shows) and sometimes avoiding making some that the ocmmunity no longer likes (black widow for example is not completely oneshot as feared).
I think in short that the expectations in “ow killer” are really excessive as… well, useless. but on the other hand I think that a little competition on how to improve the quality of life can help both Overwatch… and Rivals, let’s be honest. Even Rivals is useful to have a game like Overwatch to notice trends as it has had for 8 years, right?
Bleeding Edge was pretty bad. I played a few rounds of Rivals. It’s a pretty good game, but it’s not as smooth as OW.
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I think this is the worst flaw, in addition to the HUD being a bit too invasive for a game that wants to aim to be competitive. The presence of the character in third person is as beautiful as it is extremely not functional to the visual order of the gameplay, and the HUD so large on all corners of the screen does not help.
Now we’re talking!
What character(s) do you play?
I’ve only been able to play a few games because the last twenty-four hours have been something. I’ve stuck to playing Rocket so far and I’m still not entirely sure how the revive function works. Does it, like, just revive someone who’s died nearby automatically or… what? The tutorial wasn’t clear, imo.
Just Mantis and Jeff at the moment. I think that ability revives anyone who dies near it (?) in a certain period of time (?) missing some hp
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