[Rant] The reason you aren’t climbing is because of you

No blizzard isn’t rigging matchmaking, they aren’t putting smurfs on the enemy team, and it isn’t your teammates keeping you out of the next rank. It’s you, you’re the only consistent variable throughout all of your matches. Sure you may lose one or two games in a day due to bad teammates but you won’t lose 5 games in a row if it isn’t your fault.

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Noooo :face_with_symbols_over_mouth::rage::triumph::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::triumph: it’s because my team wouldn’t help when I 1v6ed the whole game :rage::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::rage::rage::rage::rage::rage: it’s my teams fault, I did nothing wrong :triumph::triumph::triumph::triumph::triumph::triumph::rage::triumph:

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Stinky supports! :rage: :rage:Never heal me when I’m a mile away :rage:. Stinky Dee pee as never kill the enemy team :face_with_symbols_over_mouth::rage::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::rage::rage:.

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Rant: People who are complaining about smurfs are not doing so because they can’t get up in rank, they are doing so because they want fair games.

They shouldn’t have to run the gauntlet to have a fair game, NOR should they have people imply that they are just salty they can’t up ranks, and it isn’t the smurfs keeping them there.

They are not pissed about rank, they are pissed that so many of their games are basically predetermined, which means they are wasting their time playing these, RATHER than fair games which their skill is a major contributing factor.

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For starters, I made it to masters a couple of years ago. Reached a goal, got bored, no longer play comp. I’m not a hard stuck whiner.

I came across an interesting conversation someone made on r/Kappa (forget the people there) regarding a thread about OW’s balance. Censored for obvious reasons:

Guy 1:

I hate the “hero shooter” genre so much. Every match bolis down to which team is the less stupid and individual skill matters so little that yo will never be able to carry a game on your own no matter how good you are compared to the rest. Also, for a company that is all about “diversity & representation” this game sure has a homogeneus top tier and a community that is willing to denounce you if you don’t stick to said tiers.

Guy 2:

That’s completly wrong. It’s the same mentality people have in Dota and LoL when they are stuck in low MMR because “my team is full of idiots”, yet plenty of people do carry themselves to high MMR.

Guy 1:

But what’s the point of playing a team game if my team is only there to get me pissed and I will need to carry myself? That’s basically the same as playing by myself, but way more annoying

And honestly I kinda see Guy 1’s point. You will climb if you’re good enough. People complaining about bad teammates holding them down are obviously not good. However, it’s wrong to say that bad teammates don’t exist. So sometimes you will basically just have to do things your own way.

Like I mentioned before, I don’t play comp anymore. Heck, I don’t even play QP or MH or any of the team modes. I just spend all my time in FFA for a similar reason to Guy 1. Overwatch’s main gameplay loop just got really tedious, even for QP.

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I agree with you on that, but the thing is the amount of smurfs is blown out of proportion, I only see one in ten games at a gold/plat level. Smurfs themselves won’t keep you from climbing.

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No, but doesn’t mean Blizzard should get a free pass.

I teach kids who usually start out in bronze, and the smurfing there is crazy FIERCE.

They shouldn’t have to face that. I shouldn’t have had to when I was a bronzie either.

IN your games. Other people are in other ranks. The Plat / Diamond boarder is madness. Bronze is crazy.

YOU are playing in an area where there isn’t many. But you are playing where there is the least.

It is like saying “I went into town every day for a year and NEVER once saw someone get shot, therefore war doesn’t exist.”

You are not where the smurfing is bad.

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Which is why I said some games will be unwinnable due to bad teammates. However, 33% of your games are unwinnable, 33% you don’t make a difference, and 33% you make a difference. If you can focus on the 33% that you matter in and win those games, you will climb.

Yea I agree on the bronze thing, back when I was in bronze there were a lot of smurfs. This post was just a rant cause I got into an argument with a guy on reddit who said that he can’t get out of silver cause his teammates suck.

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Yeah, it is on them. If they are playing a support, yeah I can kinda see where they are coming from, but for other roles, it isn’t a thing. Once you are in mid silver, the smurfing isn’t bad, it just kinda vanishes.

With coaching, it is super important to get them out of smurfsville as fast as you can, THEN you can teach them about the game.

Maybe they were at the silver / bronze edge, and a support player?

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Support too the only character I feel like you are at the mercy of your team is mercy(no pun intended). The rest can make plays and hard carry your team.

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Less so than the other roles. I moved from support to DPS for that reason.
Best choice I ever made.

Yes, you CAN carry as say Ana, but it is way way way easier to carry as Hanzo / S76 / Ashe / etc.

Like, the support role has an impact problem.

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I do agree with that.

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i lost 6 games 500sr below my rank. i thought i am paired with bronze players. matchmaking has major issues and unless you play dps, good luck.

You can’t have a 100% winrate nobody can unless they are in a 6 stack of cheater. No matter which role you play you can have the same impact has a dps.

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I really don’t think what you are saying is entirely true. Even IF someone does good in their match. If they have someone AFK the entire game. you ARE going to lose SR.

People believe match maker is RIGGED because of the bull + :poop: this company has pulled in the past. Plus the signs and symptoms of being stuck with NEW players in a match. All the matches I’ve ever played in comp, i had brand new team mates and they knew NOTHING on positioning, and how to NOT stand in the way of ults.

That said. I believe blizzard’s match maker is an absolute useless pile of :poop: and should have been ERASED along with the SR system. Blizzard’s had a bad rep since WoW, for their terrible pvp system. and most of the people that did crack game files even posted it on the interweb. That they WERE hosing over the player base for bad matches. just to keep a person po’d and coming back for more abuse.


Look, I like the company, but I would expect better treatment of the player base. If a person didn’t get consecutive inter’s every match that are 100% obvious (cliff divers, afkers, leavers) it’d be different. But you know what. We GET them!

eitherway. I’ve washed my hands of that mode in 2018. They can have that heaping pile of :poop: and keep it. If others enjoy it. Cool. I wish them well!

:slight_smile:

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You’re either tilted, in which you should take a break for awhile or you didn’t belong at that sr in the first place.

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Yeah I agree with that. I think it’s somewhat harder to measure one’s personal performance and impact in team based games, which is why some people feel the need to blame others. And for other people it makes the game not fun because they don’t feel like they’re advancing their own skill level (which is most likely why Kappa, a community of fighting game players, bashes OW).

Unless you happen to be very unlucky. Then it isn’t you.

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This is so wrong - whether people like it or not - the roles are co-dependent on eachother.

Even if (lets say), DPS has a hero like Widow that can solo carry a game - more often than not, the entire team’s resources are being poured into that player to enable the carry.

Same goes for Tanks but it’s much harder with tanks to carry if the team isn’t there to back them up.

Even when you’re trying your hardest- if your team isn’t there, you’re just not going to get anywhere. I still have a vivid memory of one game that tilted me beyond rationality. I was on DPS, for the biggest part, doing my bit in pouring in damage and securing kills.

We had to get them off point for a literal second, hell, I held and killed five of the enemy with a lone Lucio left on point before I died. My entire team was there - all they had to do was kill him. They didn’t, the enemy came and stomped on them whilst I was stuck on the respawn screen helplessly.

It doesn’t matter how good one is- if your team isn’t there to capitalise on your strengths and weaknesses- then you will be met with failure regardless of what role you play.

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Except this ignores the rubbish netcode/servers where you can end up firing blanks half a match while the opposing team has people being favored so hard they might as well be running aimbots. Do you really think one bad player can cause matchups where one team gets 200 kills while the other gets 0?

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