Stop locking in Mercy and Lucio, then complaining about how little is getting done.
Stop complaining about peeling, I came back for you and you ran away from me.
My shout will help you live, stop running away from me.
Most of all…
Stop putting bad support comps to your tank. If I’m on Queen, don’t lock in low, single person or AoE heals. Give me a Zen, Ana, or Kiri PLEASE!
Rant over, and I know I’m not entitled to any of these things, but holy hell do people not realize how much support comp matters to the tank.
IMO Mercy Lucio can actually work really well as long as your DPS are like Genji/Tracer/reaper. And your whole team full send their backline, aggression at 200%. Stuff their faces.
Speaking for Plat here not GM.
But yeah, if you have snipers or poke dps, that support line-up doesn’t synergize well.
Everyone knows and focuses on the tank counters, barely anyone knows or thinks about the support counters. And yes there are support counters.
Grouping up is the best thing you can do if you play comp. Have at least 1 support and 1 dps with you who will work together and make the appropriate swaps consistently.
i dont understand, people assume others will do all the work for them and either will not play around their supports or will not play around their tank and complain how theyre being tag teamed
you cant spam “heals pls” from the opposite side of the team fight, or complain about tanks not doing their job when youre 200 miles away from them, might as well be another zipcode
i feel the same sometimes on ball or hog since one is speed-mobile and the other is slow-mobile
And that’s because many, or maybe even most people don’t play the role. People will stick with one role (playing only 1/3 of the game), and then lecture you on how a role they’ve never played should be played. It’s delightful.
I constantly remind people that tank is the most team dependent role, especially in s9. The importance of your dps going after healers, and your own healers healing you as tank, is lost on many.
The way the game works now I think you have to be ready to pick whatever tank fits best with the supports. And then swap depending on how the enemy responds. Queen feels like a pretty hard tank to one trick.
She has a very high skill ceiling. One of the better designed tanks imo. But she does require some support. The only tank I feel someone can actually one trick is Doom but you have to be REALLY good with him to get to that point lol.
Right. And those same people never factor in how much more frequently tanks are targeted, and the much larger character models that cause tanks to take on damage even easier. The extra health is nearly insignificant when you consider these things, but it takes actually considering those things for someone to have the proper outlook.
With the shoe on the other foot, as a tank player myself, you can play just a little bit slower for your team if there’s not enough healing for everyone. Otherwise you’re going to find yourself in a lot of 1v5 situations because your supports will run off to heal someone else or get run off by the other team.
One of my fondest memories in ow2 was forcing queen into mauga during S8, having just a lucio and zen for support and winning comfortably because our team was just built different.
Yaaa seee the problem with queen is queen wants smoke (To fight) thats like her entire thing it adds that extra layer of psychological pressure as well when a JQ just rips through your team despite all of you trying to hard counter her…
Mercy Lucio is bad with any tank tbh but ESPECIALLY this one.
zen plays well with queen just by giving her sustain on top of her own plus lowers ttk outside of her combos
the downside is that most queens would just rather have a lucio filling that slot for faster engages to get more value out of her cooldowns
@op
mercy/lucio is a stand behind wall simulator and queen can’t really get value constantly having to drop pressure
we hates mercy lucio
For real though Lucio/Mercy is such a miserable comp for everyone. It can ONLY work if your team is smart and avoids damage and is playing a select handful of heroes like Ball or Tracer