What’s the point of dropping everyone from masters to plat if you’re still just playing agains the same masters people from last season? And how are you supposed to rank up if masters really is just plat?
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Why do you guys whine about this? Name some competitive FPS games that don’t have rank drops on season resets and/or rank decay.
Here’s a list of just some that do:
Valorant
Counter-Strike
Apex Legends
Fortnite
Rainbow Six Siege
DotA
Hello???
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Again what is the point if it’s all the same people just at a much lower rank? They basically turned plat into masters.
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There’s a difference in dropping one or two ranks and then dropping four or more.
One or two is understandable. Manageable. The current way is not and only makes high-ranked people irritated by the amount of extra work they need to do and the low-ranked miserable because they’re being 
on by the high ranks on their way back up.
This system is a circus and we are the stupid, stupid clowns. 
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Yea they dropped waaaay too much. To go from masters 4 to plat 4? In what world does that make sense?
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the difference being in those other games when youre are dropped, you actually play against players of that skill level, especially if you wait a day or two and let the really high level people grind and climb out. In this game it doesnt work like that, you are dropped in rank for no reason and matched off your hidden mmr, so for example if youre plat and drop to silver, you have to play other plats and win just to get gold, when before you would have got diamond for the same effort. Its punishing you for trying to improve which is the opposite of what ranked should do for you. And btw next time try being nicer in your post and not try to make people feel dumb, especially when youre objectively wrong
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if your SR is below your MR you earn more for your wins than you lose for your losses. So if in S2 you are still capable of being plat you’ll get back there quickly even on a 50/50 winrate. But if you aren’t still capable of being plat, and you aren’t holding 50/50, maybe you will settle on gold if that’s where you belong in S2.
There’s a lack of transparency around all this, but once you know the system it makes sense. and it’s a heck of a lot more fair than droping peoples match making rank and dumping higher skilled players in with lower skilled players which is just a terrible experience for those lower bracket people.
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None of those games work like OW.
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You aren’t. It’s designed to frustrate the heck out of you until you quit. It’s one of the worst decisions i’ve seen a game make. 100% of people are mad about it.
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It’s not true. People hope it works this way, but it doesn’t. It drops your rank, but keeps you in the same MMR games which are nearly impossible do to better than 50% win rate. Then, since rank is based solely on win rate, you’re stuck.
Awful. Miserable. System.
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It is quite simple… Rank got dropped but MMR didn’t and it is stupid…
Consider this example. There is a Timmy that is plat, so he got deranked to gold… Timmy does not have time to play at the start of the season, so he starts playing after 4 weeks. He is gold, but he is constantly put in a plat lobby, so he has hard time climbing and getting his rank back…
And this is how it suppose to work. Timmy got deranked to gold, and his MMR got adjusted accordingly. Now if he starts playing at the start of the season, he plays in gold lobbies, but all players there are plat. If he start playing 4 weeks in to a season, he plays in gold lobbies consisting mostly gold players and Timmy. He gets his rank back pretty quickly and can start focusing on getting his peak…
Do you see what sucks here now?
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Makes sense because a lot of the higher tiers get to diamond+ and then get on a smurf account so they won’t lose their current rank on the main account. Rank decay makes perfect sense to prevent smurfing and test out climbing players to see if they should really be higher or not.
Every competitive game does this.
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when your SR is lower than your MMR you earn more for wins than you lose for losses. So a 50/50 win rate will have your SR climb until your SR matches your MMR. That’s why you’re not stuck.
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that’s not how it works, and for good reason. You’re arguing for Timmy to get a fun experience by stoping people in lower brakets than him, at the expense of those getting stomped who end up having an awful gaming experience.
It’s a cosmetic change only. Timmy gets placed with people at his MMR so it doesn’t matter when in the season he plays, he’ll be in lobbies that average his MMR. So long as his SR is lower than his MMR timmy will earn more for wins than he loses for losses, and will get back his SR even if he just holds a 50/50 winrate.
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If it is, why we need it? Because it just makes people feel awfull…
yes, exactly my point, so if he don’t get to play at the begining he will have to sweat about his rank, since it will take him a while to climb back.
No I don’t. I argue that this is stupid and it should not happen any ways…
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Just so people don’t play a couple games to earn a title and rewards for not really obtaining that rank in the season.
I agree dropping it a whole tier sucks. It’s especially bad for casual people who can’t play many games, and the lack of game by game sr moves makes it feel extremely demotivating. They should probably just make it so that you have no rank until you play enough games.
Yes. If someone doesnt’ play enough games in a season then they don’t deserve that rank for that season. That’s exactly why it’s there. People would do their placements then stop playing, being able to claim “I was a plat player in season x” when really they just rode the coattails of previous seasons’ efforts.
Importantly it doesn’t matter when timmy plays his games. If he was actually placed in lower lobbies, then there would be a perverse motivation to wait until the end of the season to play because by then many others would have climbed back up and timmy, a plat player, would only be going up against gold players and have an easy time. So no matter when timmy plays, he earns the seasons ranks against people of his own skill.
The important difference that everyone seems to get is that you earn more for wins than you lose for losses, and so it’s just a number of games to earn the rank reward for the season, even at 50/50.
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because it prevents rank camping and makes people incentivized to play if they want to keep their rank
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if you feel bad about your video game rank dropping artificially then you have other issues that you need to focus on
So make it like top500 leader board? So you need to play like 25 games to get the rank at the end of season. It won’t feel awful then.
So bring the old ‘placement system’? That was not ideal…
And what is exactly and inherently bad about that? If they got there they deserve to be there… PERIOD.
But at the end, of the climb he still needs to win against plat players to climb… It is not that he plays against golds only and then magically he is plat2… Would that incentivize that? I don’t think so, but maybe…
Sure, I gain more for wins than loses, but it does not change fact, that I have to play matches in which I have to sweat to win, and the game basically telling me ‘it is whole rank below you’… It just feels awful.
Let me flip it a bit…
If you have nothing constructive to say in a discussion on internet forum, you have other issues that you need to focus on.
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at least i dont get upset when everyones (including my own) rank decays so theres a reason to q comp every season