Ran into a six stack of smurfs, reported them as cheaters

If they are winning their games, the system will quickly place them where they belong. It’s not like they will stagger at your rank.

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report them for throwing, not cheating.

Many people out there (including me) reporting smurfs for cheating + gameplay sabotage so… good for you…

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What kind of take is this? People have been smurfing consistently in low ranks for years. Just because they win doesn’t mean they can’t throw back down.

Let’s not just play the “what if” game. What 6-stack would start a game with “we’re GM” if they weren’t confident they would crush you? The fact of the matter is that smurfing is all too common and the OP sounds good exactly like a smurfing situation. Evidence suggests Smurfs. Where there’s smoke, there’s normally fire.

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This is the only written fact from Blizz that is directly related to this topic that should shut down the argument of smurfing = game sabotage, but watch in amazement as the majority of the children here completely ignore it or try and spin it off into space on a completely different tangent because they refuse to be wrong.

Blizzard has shown that they will believe and go with what benefits them even if it harms the playerbase.
We saw it with free Hong Kong scandal and then after support BLM on their twitter which contradicts their reasoning for the whole Hong Kong scandal

and for comparison other competitive games have stated that smurfing is bad

So Blizzard is the outlier and aren’t always morally right

yes, but when there’s six of you it is impossible pretty much for them to find another six to match against you, which makes that matchmaking broken. so yeah, i’ll report and move on, cheaters every one.

LOL like it’s their fault the matchmaker is trash and can’t find them a proper fit in a fast enough time to your liking?

And if this was their first ever game they played as a team, guess what? See the post above from Seraph where he quotes Kaplan himself saying starting a new account is not against the rules and “the matchmaker determines your skill level very quickly and matches you with similar players.”

You lose, good day sir.

Also a fun tidbit for everyone directly from Kaplan on boosters:

so you’re ok with games being ruined until they get properly ranked, ok good to know, and what if they just get yet another account and keep repeating the cycle and while on PC it costs money on console its completely free.

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Apparently Blizz is too hence their stance on it that Kaplan explicitly states right in his freaking quoted post, yet you still want to keep arguing and scraping the bottom of the barrel to find some sad fragile justification why you and the rest of the smurfing = illegal crew are correct. You’re not correct. You’re wrong. Drop it and get on with your lives.

no i won’t cause unlike Blizzard i care about the health of this game and community and want the best for them and the best is to get rid of smurfing.
And yes all knowing Daddy Jeff is wrong on this

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That’s fine you don’t agree with him however the current FACTS being argued here don’t care about your feelings.

the facts are blizzard is interested in what’s profitable not what’s good, and as such their word doesn’t mean much in this discussion of what’s right and what’s wrong, what is a fact however is that intentionally placing yourself in lower ranked games ruins the matchmaking experience and balance and that it is clearly a problem

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Keep in mind this thread is about their being cheaters, not whether they’re philosophically unhealthy for the game.

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Watching a game right now where there is obvious 4 stack smurfs

But apparently only very high ranks need a cap on how many can party up

I think they should put a cap to counter smurfs from grouping up in lower ranks as well.

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Please don’t ask so much of people you’re going to get banned for bullying.

well yeah i was going all moral to explain why blizzard’s word doesn’t mean much and yeah ik they make the rules but in a more general discussion about gaming in general it is cheating

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Facing a six stack of smurfs is certainly very frustrating. It’s morally dubious on their part - they’re having fun by bullying people who are not as good as they are at the game. It’s a mean thing to do.

It’s not cheating though in any way shape or form. They’re not breaking any rules. They’re not tampering with the game in unsanctioned ways. Reporting them is closer to cheating than what they’re doing.

As a side note, Six Stacking Smurfs is a good name for a 00’s indie garage band.

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