I am having a hard time countering him. I understand having a character with an AOE for damage but doesn’t go a little far?
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nano+ram ult is a problem i hope will get addressed soon… but it probably never will
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It is a powerful ult but can be countered. You just have to be aware of when he’s likely to use it.
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Hard agree. This is an ult that was needed during Goats era but not now. It can stand to be tuned down just a bit I think.
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Yeah, the ult needs to lose some damage. It’s a team fight win if you’re not playing a comp to screw him over.
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it has way too much going for it at the same time
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I kind of feel this way about it too. Okay, so he’s in his hulking form the whole time… and it’s doing damage to everybody around him… and it keeps going if he’s doing damage to anybody… and he moves faster when it’s going… Christ, why not just make it block healing as well?
I feel like if anything goes the speed should get the axe, it’s just pathetic how little counterplay the average character has to it on account of that. If it hurts him too much you can revert it but I’d like to be able to actually walk out of the circle for a little while. Sure you can kill him but if his supports are up that’s a lot easier said than done.
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Funny take, I think the Ult is mostly fine. The problem is mostly his Nemesis form. It is already really strong, both in offense and defense at close range. That his ult gives him another full refresh of the ability is the huge issue.
Just the AoE dmg wouldn’t be an issue if Ram himself was easier to kill without the Nemesis form ability to block or punch. All that said I think it’s very hard to take in completely.
The Ult is very strong in situations where your up close, near an objective/payload. It’s also insanely strong in Over time situations where you have to be near Ram.
But on the other hand, ram’s normal kit is pretty weak. His long range form has a pathetic shield, a pathetic “Ground” ability that only reaches like 5 feet into the air and barely slows down things like Sojourns slide. Compared to the new “Hinder” effect it’s very weak.
His Nemesis form as I said is very strong, on a fairly short CD. But mostly up close and in situations where he has to hard hold an area. I kind of view Ram in the same way I look at Genji. Yes his ult is strong with the right situation, but his normal kit is so weak it’s almost justified.’
To nerf Ram’s ult they’d have to buff his normal kit imo.
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I feel the same way mostly. I counter with Ana usually. Purple him and nano your tank and he usually goes down pretty good.
Strafing works. Pummel has travel time and as long as you’re strafing you can dodge a few of those punches.
Ult can be healed through pretty easily. Tree of Life, Coalescence, Valkyrie all work pretty well. You can also barrier, and wall him off from line of sight to shut down the ultimate.
His damage per second is the same regardless of whether he’s in Omnic Form or Nemesis Form; 100 damage per second.
Vortex reaches about 9 meters in the air, not great, but not shabby. It’s not going to slow down Sojourn, because Sojourn - like many Damage-role mobility options - suppresses the slow effect when using her mobility. It is more effective on Tanks and Supports as well as aerial units like Pharah, Mercy, Echo and D.va.
Omnic form really isn’t weak, but it is suited for long-ish ranged poking and prodding. Most Tanks in the current metagame tend to be brawl-favored, so Nemesis form works a little better here. Not to mention, Pummel does wonders against teams that like to clump up.
Not necessarily.
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It’s fine
Easiest team fight winning Ult in the game. Takes little skill and is very unfun to play against
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Silver people talking, for real rambazzamba ult isn’t a problem in higher elos because of game sense and ult prediction. All you have to do is to stay away from him and the ult is gone in 3sec
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Sleep/ other hard CC and barriers. It only lasts 3 seconds if it’s not damaging anyone.
there is atleast 20 things that are way too strong and broken in the game and you are pointing at Ram ult .
Say silent storm, I played with a silent storm today. Is that you or is this just a common “default name” the game hands out like Robot Wizard?
Go Hog and Press Q, f up the Ram’s ult. The problem is, hog sucks now and is useless for everything else.
I think Ram is perfectly fine personally. Yes, his ult is strong and definitely one of the better ones. However, as others have said, it can be countered in many ways, generally:
- CC.
- Burst damage.
- Staying out of range.
I never understood the whole Ana argument personally to justify something being OP. A nano’d Ram is meant to be OP because 2 ults have been expended. How is it any different to Zarya + Hanzo (or any other AoE damage ult)?
Kiriko ult on its own probably has more value than most decent 2 ult combinations…
Use sheild heros or if you use coms you can just gang up on him hes not that tanky you can also ult cancel with zen mercy lucio or even moira ult
You need to position yourself so you don’t take damage. Use barriers or the map to stay out of LOS and it will tick down fast. Boops, traps, sleep etc. all work against it.