As a Support main I think I now understand why support players always get blamed for a lose. Ive tried Ramattra a few times so far and everytime i noticed ill tell my team rather by pings or vc that im about to ulti. You think its the one time you want to pocket a tank is when he uses a ulti that will get him targeted heavily. But no the healers seem to not want to touch ramattra while he ulti. I get it its quick play shouldnt be taken seriously…but still there is a point it gets on peoples nerves and now i do understand why people blame supports alot.
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Weird, there must be a good enough reason why you’re not getting healed, did you bother watching the replay?
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Most support players in QP are dps and tank players queueing fill for challenges.
Just sayin
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They probably had other things going on. Just because you are ulting doesn’t mean you chose to at the right time or place, or that you were aware of what’s going on around you. Hopefully as someone who plays support you understand that.
Let’s see a replay.
Plus, it sounds like you don’t play tank often, and you’re on a new tank…
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usually as a tank player its hard to tell whats going on since a lot of the times your tunnel focused on whats in front of you. i had times like that where is everyone ??? but then im like oh they all died behind me lol I’m
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I queue support for challenges as Baptiste because I need to reach 65k healing. So I spam heals and never shoot enemies and use my matrix to amplify heals on low tanks and get the challenge done even faster. Here’s an example of the type of stuff I do with matrix:
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These threads, whether finger wagging at tank/damage/support, are beyond old by now.
Provide replay code so we can see these trolling supports.
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I’ve come to the consensus that all roles suck and complain, no one will be taken seriously and we all can get along with that. No? I tried.
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As an Echo main, let me say:
“First time?”
But seriously, playing Echo for a long time has taught me that supports (particularly low rank ones) generally don’t understand that when someone Ults, you want to pocket them to make them more efficient. There’s this expectation of “You ulted, therefore you should get kills instantly”, which isn’t how it works.
And this isn’t to place all the blame on Supports, either. If they’re not pocketing you (whether or not it’s for valid or incorrect reasons), you gotta play around that. As Ramattra, I’ve literally sat on the point holding right-click and peek-a-booing through cover to make sure I didn’t die during my Ult. It sucks, and it’s an inefficient way to play, but you gotta play for the teammates you have, not the ones you want.
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I swear supports have some hidden agreement to never heal Echo.
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No, they literally do.
I remember back when Echo was still dominant, and I was arguing on these forums that you should pocket/boost Echo because her Ult was an almost guaranteed fight-winner if she gets the resources.
I had support players here rabidly telling me how wrong I was, how “good Echos don’t need a pocket”, how Echo’s Ult “makes her unkillable anyway”, and “don’t Ult if you need a pocket lul”. Or my favorite:
“If I have to choose between healing Echo and the Tank, I’m going to heal the Tank.”
Yes, sure. Heal the Tank instead of the teammate who can get 3 Ultimates in two seconds. Which makes even LESS sense if SHE is currently a Tank.
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Actually speaking, about 80% of my Ramattra games have ended into me swapping because of lack of coordination from half my team, and specifically supports.
I’ve played more supports since OW2 and I lack the understanding to specific picks like Moira players that have less than 1k heals and dmg altogether, but only died 1 time after a 6 minutes game. I hate pointing people, but the stats for these players says a lot.
My other concern with Ramattra, I can’t find the proper reason to pick it when Hog exists. Hog is just so good, he just, rolls on Ramattra naturally and you can survive much longer in games where exactly the support issue is absolutely real.
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Hog doesn’t have Ramattra’s voice actor. That’s reason enough for me.
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That’s true lmao 
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Supports in Overwatch literally decide whether you live or die. So when you’re constantly fighting enemies and their HP bars are furiusly fighting your damage, while you run around with 50HP for a solid minute… It’s easy to get angry. Even if most likely that is justified, supports may heal someone else right now or you’re just out of reach.
Supports are the most impactful heroes in OW. They were, they are and they will at least until OW3. The only problem is that all that impact is directed towards allies not dying and allies performing better, which doesn’t really look all that impressive compared to multi-kills, crowd control and massive damage.
With all that said, nah, I see mostly equal amount of blame thrown at everyone.
Supports only heal meta tanks and hitscans, you play a projectile/off-meta hero, expect to be ignored.
That is just how it is.
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Mercy is my queen when I play echo. Maybe I’m lucky but I always get the best mercy pockets. The other supports…yeah I don’t expect much from them 
Its not necessarily the healers dont want to heal u but more the fact that ramatra seems ways to squishy for a tank (even in his tank mode) hes fun but he feels very under tuned vs the other tanks. Hes not the only one junker queen seems really under whelming too.
Ramatra has little to no damage mit besides his block and that only blocks a % of damage not all. And hes super slow for the range he has to use. It almost feels like rien but hes wearing led boots. Junker queen isnt ad slow but her squishyness was supose to be countered by her self heal but her self heal is so small its not even noticeable. Same with ramatra his damage mit and strate damage feels low.
So what im saying is the healers probly are healing but u r face tanking so much with little to no damage mit and low hp vs other tanks u get dropped faster the a cliff booped hog…
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And I agree with that and I know it from playing more supports than ever. But is there much of any form of explanations to why as a support that’s almost purely dedicated to heals or damage, like Moira, to have less than 1k heals and 1k dmg for few deaths in a 5 to 10 minutes game at all?
And I’m sincerely not joking, I’ve been getting a lot of Ana/Moira/Bap doing consistently doing the same things when I play Ramattra. It’s as if people were boycotting me. And I know what Ramattra can do and I make sure to emphasize on it when I play other roles.
Yes, but I still don’t understand supports doing less than 1k heals/dmg and barely dying scenarios which have been almost all the games I’ve tried playing Ram.
That being said, ram is so much countered by Hog, it’s actually annoying.
That’s not untrue…I’ve spectated a few games where I died a lot from my healers’ POV to see how easy/difficult it was to heal me, and there was one game where I was convinced Moira never healed me but when I reviewed the VOD, I saw that she was trying VERY HARD, but I just always got instantly deleted. We won the game, and most fights where I died, I still made enough space for the team to clean up, so nobody was “at fault”. Thank goodness I didn’t rage or pass blame that game.
But too often, it IS true that teammates just “forget” about Ramattra when he Ults. Another game I spectated had a Kiriko that literally just watched me die and then missed a Suzu from halfway across the map when I was at 50 HP. And yes, she had TP.
Like I said, the only thing you can really do is just play around the support you have, not the support you want.
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