This has been an issue for years, but it’s infinitely worse since OW2. If I had to estimate, >70% of my quick play games have a leaver at some point. Most often after dying or losing a teamfight 2 or 3 times in a row.
Playing 4v5 does not work. People who leave after dying twice ruin the rest of the game for both sides. They shouldn’t be allowed to give up and hop back into que just to do it again whenever they feel like it.
It seriously wouldn’t take much to discourage this behavior. All you need is a 3-5min wait timer for those who leave a QP game in the middle (excluding backfillers). That’s it. No leaver que, no exp loss, no endorsement level BS, just a 3-5min timer.
There’s no need to punish leavers in a casual gamemode, just dissuade them from ruining the experience for others. If someone has to dip that’s totally fine, but rage quitting after a couple of deaths every other game and immediately going back in que is not.
That’s all it would take to get rid of at least 25% of current leavers. Personally, this change is more necessary to my enjoyment of the game than any balance change. I feel like this isn’t controversial at all, it’s such an easy way to make the game experience better.
Yeah, I try my best not to leave my QP games. For me, and a huge amount of the causal player base, it’s basically the only mode we play, so leavers really ruin the fun. People just get away with it because there’s just no real punishment for doing so. No one cares about endorsements. A wait timer could work, but maybe only after multiple games have been left? I dunno about timings and such though. I just don’t want people with garbage internet to get smacked by mistake. (And there was that one time I had to gtfo because a fire alarm went off lmao.)
And oh yeah, a tighter matchmaker would be nice. Lead to less frustration. All that good stuff. But unfortunately, Blizzard is a small, indie company that can’t afford such nice systems. (Please stop putting Top 500s on the enemy team, Blizzard.)
I am pretty sure i remember a time when if you left 3 qp in a row you were given a 15 or 20 min time out where you could not join a game, and the timer would only go down when you were actually logged into the game.
This sounds like something that should make a comeback/get instated to make leaving a little less of an option.
People will only care when they’re given a reason to care. If I wanted to I could join 500 games in a row and leave them all instantly and the only consequence would be a temporary loss in battle pass experience. If I’m not specifically farming the battle pass, there is no consequence.
As you’ve said a temporary timeout is a good solution. I’d make it so that the timeout affects chronic leavers. Leaving a game every now and then and requeuing isn’t that big of a deal. I’d wager that the majority of leaves belong to a small portion of players.
Of course, but if you have have to go (i.e. fire alarm), you virtually don’t get punished by a leaver timer. The goal is to target precisely repeat rage quitters that ruin games nonstop. A time-based penalty feels fine.
Bad internet is fair, but also, if your internet is consistently going out or you are sitting at 1k ping, you probably shouldn’t be playing an online game regardless. Even then, a 3-5min timer is not a big deal.
Exactly, the minority is ruining the experience for the majority. They aren’t even bad people, they are just using the system how it works best for them.
Unfortunately, this ruins the experience for the other 9 people in the game. Targeting this super-specific minority is all it takes to make such a noticeable difference for the better.
Fair point for the internet issues! I was just thinking about how I got randomly jebaited by my router like 3 times last week when my connection’s otherwise super stable. But you’re right in the event someone ends up with a timeout anyway because that gives them a chance to beat the sh!t out of their router lol.
I will stop leaving matches if I am no longer put against T500, masters, diamonds in almost every match…when I am bronze/silver. Im not smurf, I’ve been playing this game for about a year and have never seen this in OW1. Its not fun.
That’s a valid point. Does leaving/requeing help you find better games? How often do you end up in top500 compared to low skill lobbies?
Me and my duo’s mmr range from plat-masters and we’re usually put up vs. anything from gold to top500s consistently, so I definitely agree there needs to be a new/low skill player matchmaker, you shouldn’t ever be faced vs. masters+.
Anecdotally, anyone between gold<->master really don’t feel like they drastically changes the quality of the game. We even had fun back and forth games vs. top500s as long as they aren’t trying their hardest as they would in competitive.
Regardless, I would rather have you stick out 5-10 min against better players and take it as a learning experience or just troll and have fun rather than leave the rest of the team down 4v5 and likely ruin someone else’s experience via backfill.
I’ve had games with bronze against masters and gm and it’s like… Yep they got rolled what a surprise. Literally why would I bother to stay in a match to waste my time getting basically spawn camped for 5 minutes. They have 2 masters players and a gm and my team has 2 gold console dps like sure ok that seems fair.
I’ve had games like this. Then they switch to their main and absolutely turbo atomp.
Want to know why games start to have more “leavers”. its because the game is terrible and the fixes aren’t there.
“dont turn on the game and play in the first place?”
Okay. whos going to play the game.
These are the back and fourth conversations that of been had for years. The game is “f2p” and there are so many problems with it. That the issues are astronomical and the company could care less about making the game better.
A CASUAL GAME shouldn’t mean a game where you can abandon as you please because you aren’t having fun.
You can’t just leave “casual” games in league, valorant, csgo, dota, etc. without consequences. Casual doesn’t mean you are free to abandon your team. It means you are allowed to play without necessarily trying your hardest to win since there is no tangible loss after the game ends.
It’s casual because there is no material loss, not because you can screw over the rest of the team if you feel like it. If you want the option to leave the second you aren’t having fun in the midst of a game, go into a custom game or an appropriate arcade mode.
How selfish do you have to be to think abandoning a teamgame you qued for shouldn’t have any consequence? You are exactly the type of player we need this timer in for.
Yeah, guess what, if you are gonna waste the time of 9 other people because the opponents happen to be better than you, you are gonna have to at least waste your time too; shocking.
Why do you think your time is worth more than the 9 other people in the game?
TBF, the best way to learn is to play against people better than you. There’s no penalty for it in QP, just think of what you could’ve done better instead of getting mad you lost.
Shockingly, not everyone wants to get better. Some people do in fact want to just chill and have fun. I’d play comp and grind that if I wanted to improve not quick play. What are you even on about
(Please stop putting Top 500s on the enemy team, Blizzard.)