Quick play leaver penalties are too strong

Doesn’t it seem a bit too much?

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It is simultaneously too much and too little. I believe it should just result in a 5 minute penalty whenever you leave and that’s that. The escalating penalty is relatively extreme. I guess they are just targeting habitual leavers with that nonsense.

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Doing this should implement that leaving at the hero select screen don’t imply it anymore.

leaving 10% of your games doesn’t make you habitual

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Like I’ve said before, don’t bother. The only people you’ll get replying are those that want them to be even harsher, and would be happy if there was a permanent hardware id ban attached to leaving 2 out of your last 50 games.

People are so gaslit by Blizzard that they ate up their bs excuses and bought their lies that the matchmaker is fine and the only problem is leavers, and that if every leaver was gone, and nobody ever left, the matchmaker would be perfect and they’d have balanced games.

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Nope. It’s perfectly fine. It’s pretty mild compared to most other PVP games.

Not being able to adapt is a personal problem.

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I think the ramp up is fine, but it should probably have slightly more leeway, by like 1 match. I think it should be closer to this:
1-2 games left: warning
3-4 games left: 5 mins
5-6 games left: 20 mins
7-9 games left: 4 hours
10+ games left: 48 hours

This makes it slightly more lenient for players that DC once to still have an opportunity to leave a match if their friend invites them, as well as those that were hitting the 20 min penalty before, while still offering some penalty for players that leave more habitually.

I still haven’t seen the 20 min penalty due to how infrequently I disconnect, but it’ll be interesting to see if dedicated non-leavers like myself will ever get hit with the 5 min penalty.

Then again, I don’t have the data that Blizzard has, so perhaps this ramp up better fits the data they’re looking to correct.

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What is the reason to leave in the first place? From that we can understand why you’re leaving. Instead of why leaving penalties are rash.

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It’s not penalty itself that is “too strong”.

It’s the fact that they slam penalties without actually addressing reasons as to why people leave. They aren’t curing any problems with it…

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Shouldn’t folks expose those reasons. Instead of leaving, tho?

Garbage mode?
Garbage MM?
Being back filled is not fun most of the time?

The list is quite long actually!

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What you mean by that?

There should be a visual indicator that the player has been punished.
Baby cry sounds, sad face character model and periodic tears from the leaver player’s character when played. Letting others know: the crying player is likely to leave.

At least is a start. We would leave from something that could happen any time to anyone. To something that they could work towards it.

Most leaver posts I see they’re complaining about the penalties, which should exist btw, instead of trying to ask them to fix why they’re leaving.

Folks leave from several reasons, leaving affects matches quality, so they demote it.

If folks instead express their frustrations and what is the reason that makes them leave, more likely that devs would do a thing about it.

I can’t name a single other game with quit bans this harsh for the casual mode, and the ones for comp are far and away the most extreme probably in the entire industry.

This isn’t a sledgehammer approach, this is using the Hammer of Dawn.

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Seems fine to me. A better solution is for chronic leavers to uninstall until they can commit to finishing team games, but that’s just wishful thinking. A leavers-only penalty queue is also another option to isolate such disruptive players from the rest of the non-leaver player pool.

Agreed! Penalties should be there for leaving.

Sure.

And by addressing reasons as to why people leave, there is less leavers. And because less people have incentive to leave, less people will complain about them.

There is plenty of feedback on that front already. They choose not to address any of those reasons tho.

Which is fine, it’s their game.

Wouldn’t be the first game that was driven in to oblivion by developers tho.

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Yeah, kinda sucks when it’s not your favorite mode, but there’s a pretty wide variety of modes to choose from, so it can’t always be your favorite.

This one always makes me laugh. The matchmaker works fine, there’s maybe just one outlier out of the 10 players they picked that decided they wanted to try a different hero or strategy with the specific map that doesn’t work out, and that should be okay for trying in an unranked mode. If it’s that egregious, just “gg” go next and endorse the other teammates.

I’ve never played a match of Overwatch where the thought was “clearly the matchmaking system is what’s causing this”, and that it’s so unbearable that I’m compelled to leave the match. Just avoid as teammate and play through the “defeat”. It’ll be faster than the 5 min penalty.

THEN STOP LEAVING MATCHES. It’s leavers that are the only people causing these annoying backfill matches.

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Should be reinforced. While is up to devs to address it or not, is better way than just leaving and complaining about penalties.

I’m not saying folks shouldn’t stop complain about the game. But if we have 30 threads about it , not a megathread and organized about what they want devs to fix. I barely see chances for them to actually need to do something about it.

What is not fun? Why you’re not liking something? What you wish that was in the game? What annoys you? What you expect from the game?

Folks wants different things, but organized in a reasonable manner would be easier to reach any kind of improvement or simply get the feedback of they not caring.

Folks should enforce their ability to protest. Because if you keep playing and leaving you’re still one MAU on that month anyways.

Mode selection or map bans is pretty much industry standard at this point.

That’s the reason that people give…

I never experienced what people claim here in this game on a scale that they claim it happens. But there was a question “what is the reason to quit” so I did gave them some. It is a reason why people quit, even if it’s just their perception of the MM.

Sure, there is just too many factors for MM to produce a perfectly balanced and close game every time one queue up. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a reason that people do quit games over.

  1. please do not shout at me. It’s rude.
  2. I am not quitting matches, so stop back filling me!

And addressing reasons as to why people do quit, will leave us with less leavers!