Quick Melee Lethality Tier List

Heroes ranked by how much damage their quick melees would inflict assuming approximate “realism”. Thoughts?

(Note the exclusion of Rein and Brig, they don’t have quick melee animations, but if you wanted to include them I guess they’d both be S tier.)

S Tier - Extreme probability of death Orisa, Dva, Wrecking Ball, Gengi

Orisa, Dva and Ball are all essentially giant death robots/mechs. Their limbs probably weigh an absurd amount, and they swing them around like it’s nothing. Taking a hit from them would probably be akin to taking a hit from a medium-sized boulder that’s recently rolled off a cliff. Gengi literally just slices you across the stomach with a sword, enough said.

A Tier - Possibility of death with a likelihood of concussion Roadhog, Winston, McCree, Torbjorn, Bastion, Zenyatta, Zarya.

A little hesitant putting Hog this low, he could easily be S, but I’ve made the assumption that his body mass is mostly fat and not muscle. Either way, his hook is large, barbed and presumably pretty heavy. Top of A tier. McCree, Torb, Bastion and Zen all have metal limbs, giving their blows extra weight and impact.
An argument could be made for Bastion in S as well but I’m assuming he doesn’t have enhanced strength the way we know Orisa does. Zarya is an Olympian and proclaims herself the strongest woman in the world. And finially, Winston, he’s a :man_scientist: gorilla :man_scientist:. Gorillas are stronk.

B Tier - Decent probability of dazing, small chance of concussion. Solider: 76, Reaper, Widowmaker, Sombra, Symmetra, Pharah, Mercy, Tracer

You may notice most of these heroes prefer butting you with their firearms. Pharah wears metal gauntlets. Symm has a metal limb, but her animation looks more like she’s trying to flick you or slap you or something, so while she has the potential to do some serious damage, she gets dropped down a tier for poor execution.

C Tier - Painful, severe bruising and potentially dazing
Doomfist, Hanzo, Baptiste, Ashe, Junkrat, Ana

Pretty run of the mill. These heroes have no augmentations (on the arms they use to quick melee at least), nothing really exceptional about their animations to my knowledge. They punch you. A blow or two will still easily put you out of the fight but you’re fairly unlikely to suffer serious, long term injuries. However, they’re still very used to fighting. Doomfist is a terrorist, Hanzo an assassin, Bap a combat med, Ana a retired soldier/sniper, Ashe and Junk violent outlaws.

D Tier - It’ll hurt, but like, you’ll get over it, man Mei, Lucio, Sigma, Ana, Moira, Pilot Dva.

Sigma wasn’t even a fighter until he was brainwashed by Talon, he’s probably never used his hands for much of anything except playing with gravity. On top of that he’s pretty old. Mei is a climatologist, again, limited combat experience, also, she wears winter gloves, which probably don’t help much. Lucio is a freedom fighter, so we know he does probably get his hands dirty from time to time, but he looks pretty skinny y’know? A little hesitant about his placement, he could certainly be C Tier. We know Moira doesn’t like getting her hands dirty when she can avoid it, she’s a scientist first and foremost. And her hands look pretty frail tbh. She might draw blood with her nails but I doubt she can pack much force. Finially, Pilot Dva. Her gun looks like it’s made out of plastic and seems pretty light. Her melee would probably feel like getting hit with a plastic cricket bat.

Suggestions for amendments welcome.

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You forgot about Reinhardt…

Or maybe you didn’t. Either way, that hammer is realistically going to kill someone :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Yeah, I thought about including him and Brig too, but thought that if they were there, would I also have to count Dooms rocket punch? Or Gengi’s dragonblade? In the end I decided I was just gonna include only ‘quick melee’ and not melee in general.

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Eh fair point :thinking:

I’d place Winston in S Tier, he’s not just a gorilla, but a genetically enhanced gorilla wearing an exo-suit. He clearly has the physical strength to knock any character across the map when he’s angry, and even though it’s an ultimate it’s not assisted by anything other than a bad temper. Genetically enhanced gorilla super stronk, IMO.

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Same, Winston is probably S Tier.
He was able to brawl with rocketpunch Doomfist with his bare hands.

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You put Doomfist a bit low. The gauntlet may not be used for quick melee, but that arm is still augmented and he’s extremely strong. It’d be more like getting hit by Zarya with knuckle irons due to the protruding knuckle shotgun.

And I can’t see why Sigma is lower than Ana lol, doesn’t he have armor on his hands?

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My last FPS had that. They had a body type system, with like five body types. And, If you were I think it was two body types above someone else, it was an instant kill. It was overpowered as crap.

I would fear something similar would happened to Overwatch. They could end up doing something where tracer’s may only just tickle you, but hog’s is like OP as crap, because he’s some 600 HP big guy.

It’s an interesting premise, but I think it might be difficult to balance. I’m not sure. I mean, they do knock back now based off of size and proportions, so who knows.

I’m sure Moiras nails can pierce through your body and directly cut your heart :eyes:
She should be S+ :eyes::eyes:

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I feel like zen should be c tier or B teir at best
his kick doesnt seem like something that would cause a severe discussion or even have possibility of death imo.
I have been kicked hard alot (like way harder) than zen and its just some bruises. (Karate tournaments black belts back when I was 14… XD)

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Roadhog, despite being a heavyset guy, is actually pretty muscular. Especially in his arms.

I mean, the fact that he’s able to throw a hook on a metal chain up to 20 metres away with a speed of 40 metres per second; and THEN haul back the person he hooked kinda goes to show that regardless of his belly, he’s a strong guy :stuck_out_tongue:

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What about Mercy? I would say C tier
Getting hit with a metal staff would hurt

EDIT: My dyslexic a$$ didn’t see her name already on there :joy:

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I only agree to Orisa if she is allowed to have that OR-14 blade from the Reinhardt short.

To be fair to doom, not only is he augmented even on his quick-melee arm, he was also a master of martial arts and did it competitively.

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Ana is both in C and D

well realistically… i don’t think that’d be the case bc a massive body requires a massive amount of energy they’re more likely made of materials that are light and sturdy like carbon fiber or titanium

I think df’s left arm also has some augmentations to a certain degree

Also he’s an expert martial artist so he definetely knows how to throw a punch

clearly you dont understand how strong a gorilla is if you put them in the same tier as any human of any build on any known steroids.

I’d put Ana down one. Maybe it’s just me, but the way she sounds throwing her frail grandma punch, and considering she’s a sniper–someone who typically battles from afar–makes me think her hand-to-hand work is a little less than most.
I also agree with the consensus that Winston should be S. Dude’s not -just- a gorilla, he’s a genetically engineered scientist gorilla. ;p A good punch out of him would definitely be scary.
Finally, I’d drop Ball to B. It’s drastic, but like Soldier or Reaper, he’s just butting you with the gun on the thing, which looks quite tiny if you ask me.

What would be Echo if you updated the list in 2021?
Well made btw.