You’ll get reported for abusive chat.
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If a person in game didn’t ask you for your “constructive criticism” then yeah, you’re probably being abusive.
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“Hey man, we could have used your trans during Zarya’s grav. Try to save trans for enemy ults for more value.”
Is abusive?
“Abusive” isn’t an automatic state when initiating a conversation with a specific intent, especially if the intent is directly related to the activity both parties are partaking in.
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Accurate. Characterscharacters.
No, honestly though, if context and tone don’t matter then literally all speech qualifies as “abusive”.
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I somehow doubt the “advice” you were giving was constructive.
I mean, I read what you ‘said’ but I don’t think that was entirely the whole truth.
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Um… It is in the context of Overwatch. I do not agree with it, but you can be reported for anything. Just use your best judgement regarding who you talk to. If someone is chill, you can probably give them advice, if someone is acting like they could tilt at any moment, save it unless you want them over the edge. Lul.
Are you giving me advice on not giving advice, that’s it, I’m reporting you!!!
/joking
Sensitive people are sensitive. I think sensitive people need to turn off the voice chat if they can’t deal with people asking specific actions.
“Please go stand on the payload”
“Aaaah so much stress and performance anxiety because of you I’m going to report you omg you are toxic”
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If I didn’t ask for your input, opinion, or criticism you offering it is a negative impact.
It would be like a customer offering you unwanted criticism about your work and telling you how to do your job.
Literally no different and just as frustrating.
Expect to get reported each time you be that annoying customer
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I can’t believe some of you are actually saying that what the OP said as an example for his “constructive criticism” is abusive / negative impact.
If he’s saying exactly what he typed, in a moderately respectful manner, than there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that, and in fact, I personally would welcome more players to do just the same.
If though the player receiving the “constructive criticism” has a valid reason as to why he’s choosing the player he is on, then simply rebuttal his constructive criticism comment with your reasoning. Maybe he’s seeing something that you don’t, or vice versa, and communicating about it makes everyone learn and be more aware about the game, and thus ultimately can better.
Sometimes people simple do not know, or weren’t aware of, the possible benefits of certain heroes have vs certain comps, or simply aren’t as fast to recognize them in every game.
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I can understand it if the criticism is weak like “omg you are terrible play better!”.
But actual, constructive advice NEEDS to be endorsed, and NEEDS to be acceptable.
You’re playing as part of a team. Yes, you will get constructive advice asking you to do specific things that help the team. And then you need to try.
If you don’t have the mental fortitude to actually deal with other people having certain expectations of you, because this is a team game that requires cooperation in order to win, then don’t play the game at all.
If they are rude, then ignore them, report them. But giving friendly advice needs to be okay (even if not asked for, because most people do not have the personal insight on their performance to ask for advice to play better)
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If you’re a person trying to play a team game in a competitive manner but won’t listen to constructive criticism, then yeah, competitive overwatch is not for you.
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Clearly you have not heard the golden 2 rules when it comes to customers:
Rule#1) The customer is always right
Rule#2) If the customer is wrong, refer to rule #1
I honestly wonder how many people have suffered from unwarranted reports from players with your mindset.
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See, everyone comes to the forums and portrays their experience in the most flattering light possible. The problem is, we don’t believe you. Every time someone gets banned they claim that they were nothing but gentlemen and they indulge themselves with a little revisionist history.
Maybe you did make a polite comment about the guys trans. Maybe you are one of the rare few. Nine times out of ten though… complaining about a teammates perceived misstep is done with many layers of hostility.
It all depends on your delivery
I should also go on record to say that other advices/criticisms I offer go like this:
“Dude, you’re being countered, could you please swap?”
“Rein, push forward please, we don’t want the enemy to contest for free”
The overall problem is the “I paid for the game I’ll play it how I choose” mentality makes for games that are outright painful to slog through. People don’t wish to improve and don’t wish to be helped because it’s “their, money, their game”. Yet here I am, having spent my money on my game having my experience completely tossed because I have to worry about coddling players who don’t want to be told their wrong for making specific actions.
Actually, it’s a matter of both of us trying to achieve the (supposed) same goal and is nothing like a customer looking-in on the performance. Rather, it’s another employee who knows how the job should be done watching their colleague as they do the job incorrectly or ineffeciently.
It’s also matter of performing vs performing correctly and to the fullest potential allowed by your selected hero. In my following analogies, both workers were ostensibly doing their job however, they weren’t doing it correctly or to their fullest potential.
So, let’s make some tweaks to your analogy to make it more properly represent the situation.
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It would be like a co-worker observing a grocery store worker stocking the heated, meal-ready-to-go stand with cartons of milk and saying they should probably put the milk in the refrigerated section.
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It would be like watching a fellow department store worker attempting to put pants on the torso of a mannequin and pointing out that maybe they should put the pants on the mannequin’s legs.
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Lets face it in this thin skinned PC culture we have right now anything you say, or don’t say can be offensive. After all it just takes some one to be offended, or at least pretend to be offended for it to be abuse.
Basically never talk to any one ever, you might just offend them. Of course being silent is an admission of guilt so there is that too. They’d probably report you for game play sabotage if you didn’t have voice chat.
I understand your sentiment but I haven’t been banned and I avoid being hostile. My goal is to hopefully create a gaming atmosphere that I can enjoy. Currently, I don’t enjoy Overwatch because so many of the players have a wanton disregard for the amazing game that OW could be if it were played as it was designed to be played 
Edit to add:
I should explain that I was spurred into posting because the scenario I described was concluded with the mentioned Zen player and his 4 stack telling me they would report me for abusive chat. Low-and-behold, the next day or so later, I have a wonderful silence warning awaiting me. I can’t, however, complain about the automated system since I feel it’s a necessary evil when it comes to habitual toxicity and the fact that there isn’t enough man-power to manually police the community.
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In this community, yes.
If you ever imply someone else is wrong, you’re abusing them. Doesn’t matter if you do it with the intent to help, and you actually have a reason to say it becaues if you don’t you cost yourself the match.
I’ll never forget the time I got called toxic just for saying “I don’t think that’s a good plan”.