Pronouns are not difficult. You are

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Genuinely speaking, the pronouns of characters like venture or people in real life or anything are not difficult to understand, nor change when talking about them.

Talking about a person who goes by they/them, sure i can understand it takes a little bit to get used to it, but most people can get that fully done within like half an hour of not-so-actively attempting to learn it.

“They/them is confusing since it can be plural”
yes its used as a plural as well, but in practically no properly formed sentences or discussions you would remain confused about it.

If someone just says something like “They went to the zoo, i hope they saw lions”
You would possibly be confused and think theres no way to know.

However, in what normal conversation would someone just drop that, without having any sort of implication of who or what theyre talking about?

If they say “My friend venture had a vacation, they went to the zoo, i hope they saw lions” you would instantly know theyre talking about the specific person, given you know their pronouns, and even if you dont, the entire message implies theyre talking about the person venture.

if they say “my friends Sombra, reaper and mauga had a vacation, they went to the zoo, i hope they saw lions” you would instantly realize they are talking about the whole group of overwatch heroes.

but what if they say “my friends venture, cassidy and mercy had a vacation, they went to the zoo, i hope they saw lions”
You would still assume theyre talking about the whole crew, unless they specify in other ways in the conversation before who they might be referring to. Like if they started with
“My friend venture REALLY loves lions” and then a little later say “my friends venture, cassidy and mercy had a vacation, they went to the zoo, i hope they saw lions”, you could assume they are talking about that you hope that venture saw the lions.

how to use them and how to understand them is very easy if you pay attention to the actual conversations beforehand.

It feels more like people are feigning ignorance especially on these forums about venture being non binary because they dont want to understand, not because they simply just “dont”.

Or the other way of people just being intentionally transphobic, that isnt far fetched either for some folk.

Edit: This post has now been flagged, and unflagged 5 times
for trolling
for real life threat
and for spam.
for inappropriate username
for inappropriate content

it is none of these, it is informational about the usage of the english grammar in the game of overwatch 2

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When a Wii start screen that ask “Are you a boy or girl?” and people get mad about this… are those really the ones we should listen to?

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:popcorn:

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Not exactly sure who youre referring to here but im just giving an english lesson as to how to use pronouns in a normal conversation :smiley:

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Genuinely who cares. She, him, they, I genuinely don’t give a crap. I’m going to call it a her, just because it looks a girl. But more realistically, I’m going to refer to them as venture. I play the game for fun. When I make call outs, I’m going to say “venture flanking.” don’t care what the characters “orientation” is at all

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Its best for respect of people who play the game who might also use the same pronouns to try to refer to them either with just the name overall (which is good that you do)
Or by they/them

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What you desrcibe here is adding further context to avoid confusion, but that also means there is confusion without adding further context. Non binary pronouns are the only ones which require further clarification.

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Give me one example, outside of a crazy person on twitter with 5 followers, of someone being mad about this.

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It not difficult, just wrong

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It is not even a matter of being difficult or not.

Games are supposed to be for fun not for politics.

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It’s a video game character…. Y’all seriously overestimate how many trans people exist. According to studies, only 2% of the American population is gay. Of that population, the vast majority are not trans.

Either way, my point is that it is not a real person. I’m going to say she, or her just because that’s easier, and no one I play with cares about the game enough to even know that blizzard decided to make them nonbinary.

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Nothing political about a character being nonbinary. Unless you want to make it so.

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No they aren’t, if you played a game of overwatch where the enemy had all female heroes and you said “she’s one”, without any other context who would you be referring to?

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Okay, you got me. Let me rephrase that. Non binary pronouns are the only ones which require further clarification by default.

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“Can’t believe people are getting offended over a fictional character’s identity”

“Can’t believe people are getting offended on behalf of a fictional character”

Is either one wrong or right? Why or why not? Show your work lol

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Apparently you care a lot, given you’re intentionally choosing not to use the pronoun you know you should use.

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I find edge lords to be massively exponentially more cringe than liberals/people who respect gender preferences

But I’m also probably a libturd so whatever

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I have a question op! Me me me!

If i play a game, and someone screams to vc:
“They are flanking!!” And i automatically think whole enemy team is flanking, am i a bigot?

Even though its just Venture?

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Then games arent an artform. They’re a toy.

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Not “intentionally.” It is simply the fact that the vast majority of the playerbase does not care enough to even know that the character is nonbinary. When communicating in a lobby, I’m not going to spend the time explaining “well actually Venture isn’t a she, it’s a they/them,” because I don’t care. I only care about winning and having fun. Nothing else.

Regardless, I think venture is an awesome character. Much better then dumb Mauga

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