Project Healer a way forward for supports

Mercy, LW , zen all three of them should be able to bypass dps passive.

Mercy and LW are pacifists and need the healing to standout, zen is already 30hps single target.

Also other supports if they heal you after you hit ‘I need healing’ should make dps passive half at 10 %.

This way maybe we can reencourage the supports in the sacred art of healing that has been long since lost due to blasphemy preached by false prophets like awkward and ml7 brainwashing poor supports subliminally by making them see imnotahealer repeatedly.

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ive been wanting this ever since the dps passive was introduced. role wide passives make 0 sense if the heroes within the same role are massively different from one another

why should sustain healers take a massive hit bc of the sins of burst healing/burst utility from a few specific support characters?

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Supports and tanks both shouldn’t have to deal with DPS passive. Especially with the incoming humongous nerf to armor. Tank players won’t see this coming but they are going to take a major hit when the armor nerf kicks in. DPS passive really needs to disappear before then.

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To be perfectly honest, Tracer nerfs are more than enough compensation for the loss of armor. What other DPS are we supposed to struggle with? :rofl:

Oh no! They have a Venture guys! Better nerf them again, I am so scared!!!

Well if you have armor you’re gonna take 30% more damage from Venture than before and you will have 20% less healing on top of that. Venture can’t crit, so… 25% headshot reduction does nothing and improves her damage against tanks with armor

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Soldier soj will then take tracer place.

Also good to see you back :grin:

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Blizzard is genius. They saw this coming and decided to nerf Venture early just to protect me. I love and cherish Blizzard as my greatest friend. They are always looking out for me. I should buy a skin to show my appreciation and support the developers.

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I’m going to assume this was serious, just in case

Lifeweaver should not be played like a pacifist. Especially not in the current in-game environment. Playing him that way will most likely get you a negative winrate

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He is at the core not going to single handedly kill anyone.

That is what I meant by pacifist a ton of his value is from healing.

Which can’t afford these nerfs.

The thing about that is that playing Lifeweaver as a DPS will also result in a negative winrate. Trust me. :sweat_smile:

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I mean, let’s be honest… he did say that if someone hits their healing voice line, it should reduce the anti-heal passive by half when you heal them. This is not a serious topic… but I thought it was at least potent enough to discuss the fact that the DPS passive should just disappear for now, with the upcoming armor nerf

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You have to achieve a perfect balance between defense and offense. It takes a LOT of patience sometimes asdfghjkl; but I’m still managing to hang onto my positive WR on him in QP

(OK next week for SURE I’m going to start playing comp. Really. I hope)

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Or you could just go bap and do the same thing and have about 2x more damage

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About Bap–

  • He has falloff damage
  • His DPS is 127.5, LW’s is 132 (both not counting reloads)
  • He can’t move teammates to highground
  • He can’t suddenly put the tank next to the enemy supports or whatever
  • He can’t help teammates without mobility abilities get back to the fight faster
  • He can’t summon a solid obstacle on demand for whatever purpose we need
  • He can’t put people back on solid ground if they get knocked off the map
  • He has no horizontal mobility and gets back to the fight more slowly
  • His teammates never shoot through the box

So no, I can’t really do the same things as I could on Weaver

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Bap damage is more consistent than LW at any range. Pure dps numbers are meaningless. What’s the accuracy?
You are not doing as much effective damage as bap without compromising healing.
Bap can do both at the same time. There’s no weapon swap either.
Bap has other things in kit as well that provide more consistent value in a team fight than platform.
Bap seems to have enough to have like 10% higher win rate than LW.

My accuracy with thorns is 26%, but that’s keeping in mind that I also like to pressure corners and sometimes use thorns to “lock” people away by creating a damage hazard in their path. If we were to not count those particular uses, I would guesstimate my accuracy being more like 35%. My crit accuracy is currently 14%

I also currently average per 10 minutes: 4,006 damage, 11.5 elims, 2.67 final blows, and 9,097 healing

Basically, I usually only go Bap if the enemy has a Pharah

I only go LW instead of bap if I want to play the game on hard mode.

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Healing shouldn’t be the focus of a Support’s kit, so that’s a no from me. We can’t keep making exceptions to game mechanics for specific roles or heroes.

The Damage Role passive was put in place to nerf healing without nerfing the Supports, and this was accomplished.

You don’t pick Zen for Harmony. At all. His job has never been that of a healer, so Zen is bothered the least by the Damage Role passive.

Mercy has Damage Boost she can flick to, if her healing is getting overpowered. If you can kill something faster than they can kill you, then healing in the moment simply doesn’t matter. And if your ally happens to die regardless? Well, last I checked, Mercy is still the only Support with a reset button.

And Lifeweaver, like Zen, isn’t picked for his healing output. At all. You say he’s a heal bot, but your heal bot Support has 1 healing ability - Healing Blossom. If Lifeweaver was designed to be a designated healer, all of his abilities would have high amounts of consistent healing; Life Grip, with it’s 50 healing and 18 second cooldown is not a high amount of healing or is it a frequently used ability, and neither is the Tree of Life as its his Ultimate, and isn’t available to use every fight. Lifeweaver is a Utility Support, like Zenyatta. If you’re healing is being overpowered, use the utility offered to you to support your team, or use you’re damn gun. That’s why it’s there.

Therefore, there is no reason for these heroes to be able to bypass what is now a basic gameplay element.

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You have other supports like dps Maria, budget soj illalaa, shimmada kunai, not a budget soldier Baptiste etc

To roleplay all your I’m a support imnotahealer memes.

This PROJECT HEALER takes care of supports whose focus is healing and or who is affected adversely by dps passive like zen with a already paltry healing.

Project Healer heals the support roster.

This also only encourages supports to support team in need with healing.

Supports can Heal too let’s not forget that and it’s a prime strength of many supports that are not hybrids.

This is the most serious topic even if it may look like a meme with some ideas.

Im sick of the direction were supports that actually support you are being looked down by meme dps supports and somehow supports healing is being looked on as a bad thing nowadays.

It’s really dumb when you have passive supports that rely on triage healing to carry the team.

yeah this also never made sense to me, they introduced dps passive to reduce the power of burst healing to incentivise sustain healing, yet it also effects sustain to the point where everyone just picks a dps orientated support

sustain should have never been effected by the passive bc it was so slow to begin with compared to the high burst damage

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