This is how they’re implementing progression. You have to earn basically ALL THE CORE CRAP to the game.
I started up a new account for my son’s friend. And all heroes are basically locked down in the beginning of the game. You have to ‘‘earn’’ them all. Every last one. The only game mode you can do is quickplay open queue. You can’t chat, you can’t voice comm, You literally start the game out being able to do nothing in the game to help your team besides use the ping system…
You get 3 or 4 healers you can use, like 7 dps, and like 4 tanks.
You are literally locked out of EVERYTHING else. Out of curiosity, I played a few games on this new account, and it’s infuriating not being able to communicate with my team. At all.
It’s infuriating in order to use voice comms, you have to go through this crap ''New Player Experience". It’s so locked down, no wonder newer players aren’t being helpfull. I spent my whole first game wondering when i’m going to get heals as tank at all. All the supports did was dps. That’s it. Even the MERCY on our team.
I’m feeling so sorry for my son’s friend. I couldn’t play the game this way. Like at all. I got so mad I couldn’t tell my team what my plan was and had to abandon my team to go get heals. It felt horrible.
So a the ping system really is just a communication tool, you don’t have to use it if you don’t want to. It’s just an alternative to coms. And PC it is used all the time especially when flankers are involved or your playing someone like sombra that can see low health targets behind walls.
Secondly you just need to play a 100 games for the base cast, not win but just play.
After that point you are good go.
Like if it is for your kid specifically, then they will have a moment to try out different heroes. And fine something gameplay wise they like. Instead of just picking the one that looks the coolest and not wanting to try something else.
Also they don’t need to be competitive right out the gate. For the most part it’s going to take weeks of play just to learn how to play against all the different heroes.
I ping all the time in my games, and they always go ignored. EVERY TIME, and then my team complains in voice chat that said flanker is cheating when really, they’re not. My team just sucks…
yea i knew most of these things for new accounts but you just made me realize this is their “progression system” this type of stuff got games destroyed on launch like star wars battlefront 2 years ago but overwatch just seems better at lying about it
With Battlefront 2, it was way worse. Loot boxes that were giving people who paid better gear, or better perks. Heroes weren’t necessarily locked down, but you had to grind. This is Grinding for grinding sake, unless you pay for the battle pass. But thing is, that doesn’t even work with new accounts. You can pay for battle pass, and still have those characters locked until you meet certain criteria
Not so much my case, plat dps/support/ near diamond everything else.
holding an angle to keep the flanks in view I can more or less keep them in sight, and give my team wall hacks to them.
And a ping means something different depending on the role, or the situation your in.
Like as orisa I ping my Ideal attack target, and stack damage with my dps. And while on supports/dps I ping where I’m watching or if their are any flankers running around.
No a lot games work like this, smash bros is doing just fine with a similar build up. And a lot of other hero shooters make you pay for their heroes outright or go on weeks long grinds just to unlock one.
This is honestly not so bad. Your not exactly going to need all those tools or have the experience to use them right off the backs.
And getting your to try out different roles, and characters does a lot to give you perspective on how the game plays as a whole.
Instead of everyone kind of just playing a single hero and having their entire view of the game be through a pin hole in a wall.
That’s all fine and good. People should learn different roles, but preventing communication outright all together other than Ping?
On my account, playing regular because I was an OW 1person, in all my games, most people ignore pings and do their own thing. Not being able to communicate with your team teaches only one thing and one thing only, play the game on your own don’t work with your team.
In a team game, that literally never works out, and makes for crappy matches that are either stomps all day, or worse, halted games because you can’t push farther. So it’s basically losing by default.
If people paid attention to pings, then it’d be fine. But they don’t.
Yep keeps newbies from getting trolled all game with people that get banned and start making new accounts just to yell slurs at the kiddies.
It sucks, but at the same time the new accounts are not going to be MLG any time soon. So you know if they need to talk to friends they can get on a discord call.
M8 and people arn’t going to make good callouts either, their not going to talk to you like so Ubisoft presentation were six people go full keyboard warriors.
That isn’t going to happen.
it’s goign to take years after such players get into the game for said outcome to happen.
I was talking about games in my actual account where everyone ignores pings. not newbies. I know the kid’s new account people won’t worry about pinging, but people who have been playing awhile shouldn’t be ignoring them. I mean it’s good info… Why ignore the fact that there’s someone in the backline killing the supports who are most likely keep you alive? makes no sense
Honestly I just don’t have this experience, people will react to such when I point things out to them.
I would first recomend ping something like a low health target in front of you. Then when that is out of the way and gotten people use to interacting with such. Start pinging the flanker.
You might just have the train people to react to such.
I want to go back - maybe delete my account and create a new one. The early days were the best when people didn’t pick the most annoying heroes and know how to use them. Where you could play a tank and the entire enemy team didn’t switch to counter you. My first 3 or 4 weeks in OW2 were the best. That was Dec/Jan last year and it’s all been downhill since then.
I’m guessing now most players would be like me and be creating alt accounts and it would just be as try-hard as it is when you are fully unlocked.
It happens all the time. I’ve played support ,and dps, and tank. Nobody cares about pings. They’ll ignore it and keep trying to kill the tank on enemy team, who’s being pocket healed… While I get nothing, or get flanked, or just plain old get out dps’d. It’s infuriating.
Considering that most my games run smooth with said pings.
and I play lot with loads of different players through out a month and these players just being randoes.
I can confirm this is the experience for a good number of people.
I will say the quality of pings does matter.
If you ping a widow for example and your team isn’t running flankers/dive.
then like theirs nothing they can really do about that, other then try not to play her angles.
At the same time, if your well off away from your team. throwing a ping on a flanker doesn’t do much either. As now they have to give up space to go get you.
Pings are sitautional, and you do need to use them within context of what you and your team are doing.
Their not a command to control the exact movements of your team now, your not playing an RTS.
There’s a reason for that, new players don’t even know the ping system exists, the game never tells you about it it’s the same reason everyone has private profiles, they are private by default.
No matter what t500 streamers tell you ow2 is not casual or beginner friendly, the game doesn’t do enough to keep its newbies and it will suffer for it in the long run.
